Thanks, Jeremy, that answers my question. I suspected it probably had a shorter tt since it was not designed specifically for the Bosco bar. I think the look of the Rosco M is a bit more rugged/masculine than the Clem L.
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:40:08 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Tavan wrote: > > On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 6:15:20 AM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote: >> >> Which brings me to another question: What are the effective >> geometry/other design differences between the MMMs and the Clem Ls (other >> than the lift a tube, which the Clem L already naturally possesses)? >> Shorter virtual top tube, so that drops can be used? >> > > I was interested in this frame, and spoke with Roman on the phone about it > briefly the other day. Versus my 52cm Clem (H, but I think the L has > similar or identical geometry), the R05C0 8U883 > not-exactly-a-mixte-but-whatever has a slightly shorter top tube (59 vs > 61cm), somewhat shorter chainstays (don't remember the exact number), the > Appaloosa fork instead of the Clem fork (so, slightly narrower max tire > size), and no lugs except the fork crown. And, of course, it's a > not-exactly-a-mixte-but-whatever like the Cheviot, and not a full > step-through like the Clem L. I wonder if the lifter tube adds enough > stiffness down by the bottom bracket. > > I found on my Clem H 52cm that I wasn't really comfortable with a dirt > drop stem and handlebar, but it was a fairly close thing. It's possible > that the R05C0 8U883 with dirt drop would work for me. But I'm pretty > long-torsoed. Your mileage may vary. In the end, I decided I'm content with > my Clem H for the purposes to which I put it, so I think I'm going to pass > on getting in on the next batch of these - not different enough, though > it's a very interesting frame and I look forward to seeing more of them > built up. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
