I hadn't tried them in a while but a few years back I went to Home Depot by
my old house and they were pretty well stocked up with all sorts of socket
cap hex bolts that were useful on bicycles, so I stocked up.  I never
bought an M6, I guess, because I didn't have one in my collection big
enough for the binder bolt.

You're right though, this time they sucked.  They didn't even have any M6
nuts.  There was a space for them but they were sold out.  They had the
Nyloc kind but I wasn't about to use those.  Lowe's had the nuts, and also
an M6-25.  I used that rather than a 20.  Maybe could use a 20 and it would
mount flush.  the 25 sticks out about an eighth of an inch, which is not a
big deal to me.

In case you were wondering about the Why, I sheared off the binder bolt on
my Redwood a couple of years back.  Ever since then I have switched the
binder bolt back and forth between my Custom and my Redwood depending on
which I wanted to ride.  I finally decided this was a completely ridiculous
situation and to do something about it.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In my experience, both Home Depot and Lowes suck for bicycle fasteners.
> Home Depot sucks way more than Lowes, but both are pretty useless.  A
> proper fastener store is best for having everything, but they often hate
> you if you are only buying 1.  Ebay has essentially everything, but
> sometimes you have to buy a bag of several.  M6x1.0mm 20mm length is
> something you may use on other things: a stem bolt, mounting a cantilever
> brake, on some Riv rack eyelets.  A bag of 10 for $5.65 shipped is what I'm
> seeing from this vendor:  ebay link
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/6mm-M6-x-1-0-Stainless-Steel-SOCKET-HEAD-Caps-Screws-DIN-912-A2-18-8-Coarse/112432406051?hash=item1a2d7e5e23:m:m0XeLjrPfZK-kGEgIjq4OOQ>
>
>
> That way you don't even need to leave your home.  Stock up on all the
> common sizes and shop from your own inventory.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> Both Home Depot and Lowe's were sold out of M6-1.0 x20mm stainless socket
>> cap bolts.  Sigh.  They had mild steel ones so I took those as a temporary
>> measure.
>>
>> The Lowe's guy said he had a truckload of fasteners to unload and stock
>> so maybe I'll go back later in the week.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 4:33 PM Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> OK you were asking for the SIZE of the seat post binder bolt on a
>>> Rivendell frame?  Woosh!  I missed that entirely.  I guess size is one of
>>> many specifications.  I concur with Brendan that it's an M6.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:26:34 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes thanks that's what I was looking for.  I'm going by home Depot on
>>>> the way home.
>>>>
>>>> I won't use my torque wrench on it.  Lol...
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 4:19 PM Brendan McD <brenda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>> It uses an M6 bolt and nut. I think the length of the bolt is 20mm, but
>>>>> you may be able to get away with a shorter length.
>>>>>
>>>>> I broke my binder bolt on tour and stopped in a local hardware store
>>>>> and picked up a few extras for a few dollars. I put a dab of grease on it
>>>>> and haven't had any problems since.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was taught to tighten the binder bolt just tight enough so that you
>>>>> can't rotate the seatpost in the seat tube, and that should be enough
>>>>> torque to keep it from slipping vertically.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brendan McD
>>>>> Portland, OR
>>>>>
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