On 11/25/2017 05:34 PM, Ben Miller wrote:
As I said, it's an intensely personal choice.
Thanks, yes, I have looked at them. I don't consider the treads to be
any different,
Then you need to have your vision checked, because at this point I
wonder that you are even able to see the first line on the eye chart.
The difference is obvious.
because I consider all slick treads to be the same. Bikes can not
hydroplane under anything close to normal circumstances, so what
possible difference could there be between those treads? Those
differences in treads are cosmetic, nothing more. (Don't believe me?
Read what Sheldon Brown <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tires.html> has
to say about tread.)
You're either being deliberately obtuse or you are completely missing
the point. Regardless of the functioning of tread, you simply cannot
say the tires are "identical" if the differences in the tread are
obvious to the naked eye. Now if you want to say something like "all
bike tires are functionally equivalent," then for some values of
"equivalent" that might be a true statement, and we could get into a
detailed discussion of the function of tread on bicycle tires. But
that's not what you said.
Don't play silly games. If your point is that as far as you are
concerned all bicycle tires are the same then just say so, but don't
expect anyone to take you seriously.
Even if somehow you still think that there is a difference between
radial and herringbone tread, along the center, where the tyre
actually contacts, both Grand Bois and Compass have radial tread
(SOMA's have a mix of radial and a "true" slick pattern).
And true, no one other than Panaracer really knows what, if any,
difference exists in those three tyres. But, if you're Panaracer and
some asks for a tyre of a given size, weight, performance, and price
point, how many different knobs do you think you have left to turn?
It's not like Panaracer in Japan has an infinite number of casing
material and rubber compounds to chose from, so those criteria almost
certainly lock you into a rubber & casing design and everything else
is cosmetic. Do you really think there is more to this decision making
process? If so, what?
If you go back to Jan's blog and do a little searching you will find
some posts describing the design process for Compass tires. It's
entirely clear from his writing that that decision process didn't even
slightly resemble your summary.
On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 1:17:25 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar
wrote:
On 11/25/2017 02:57 PM, Ben Miller wrote:
Then be surprised. The fact that Panaracer makes them doesn't
mean they're made the same. And honestly, detecting the
difference between the Hetre and any other tire doesn't require a
lot of detective work: all you need do is look at them. Here they
are side by side. It's obvious that's not the same tread.
Image result for compass babyshoe passImage result for grand bois
hetre
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