Yeah, remind me to never ever, ever-never ask a question on the internets!!!!
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Robert F. Harrison <rfharri...@gmail.com>wrote: > Actually I think this round of TCO discussion was started off with this > innocuous little query... > > Subject: TCO on an Atlantis? > Morning query: With BIG 50mm or larger tires on a 700c Atlantis, are > there TCO issues? > Enjoy a Sunday ride! > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > > Grant did start this particular thread in response to that thread which > also diverged into a thread about tire width side of things. So while he may > have started the thread, he did not start the topic, he was responding to > it, albeit using a different subject line. > > Apparently I don't have anything better to do today than sort through old > email. :-) > > And, if one really wanted to go back, I thinking one could claim this is > all just an extension of the 12/1/2007 (!) topic: > > Not The Last Word on TCO ( http://goo.gl/SaGU ) > > > > One my QB (700c/35mm/fendered/big feet/no clips) I did experience a wee bit > of TCO (no consequences) the first day I rode it and, having noted it, have > never had a problem since then. At least on my bike it isn't particularly > hard to avoid, even at low speed. > > Aloha! Bob > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Rene Valbuena <valbu...@ix.netcom.com> > wrote: > > > > I do have a life. that's why i don't reply to any all topics here;-) if > grant did not start the thread, who did? isn't it if your name is on top of > the topic or the first one, it is considered that you started the topic? -- > rene > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: PATRICK MOORE > > Sent: Feb 4, 2010 12:13 PM > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: TCO in general.. > > > > Actually, Grant didn't start the thread. > > > > But I think it is time for other entrail readings and that we should move > on to analyzing Grant's wardrobe or his deoderant or something. I don't like > his haircut. Anyone else care to chime in? > > > > Christ! Let's all get ourselves lives! > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Rene <valbu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> > >> TCO is a problem to me which I have learned to live with with all the > >> Rivendell models I have owned. But this does not leave me less > >> sensitive to GP's choice of words on this matter either. I hope > >> Rivendell Bicycle Works will put out a chart or a table indicating at > >> what size(s) among their models is TCO not going to be "a problem" > >> even with a size 12 feet or shoes. Or even a smaller size if 12 is a > >> bigger average. Some may tell me that I should tell this directly to > >> RBW. But I thought since GP started this subject on this forum, I can > >> propose it here. > >> > >> -- Rene > >> > >> On Feb 3, 2:12 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > >> > Anne and James: > >> > > >> > I will readily concede that TCO not being a concern to me left less > >> > sensitive to GP's choice of words. > >> > > >> > On Feb 3, 1:05 pm, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:48 AM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> > wrote: > >> > > >> Those who design bicycles would be urged to consider customers > like > >> > > >> myself, recognize that TCO is an offense (however significant), > and > >> > > >> deal with it proactively, either by eliminating it, or > acknowledging > >> > > >> that it is a necessary evil (however significant) to be > tolerated. > >> > > >> > > > Isn't that what Grant says in his post? > >> > > >> > > He said: "TCO ends up being a problem---in my opinion---only in > >> > > theoretics, but not in practice." > >> > > >> > > For me, TCO is a problem in practice. I don't mind hearing that the > >> > > desire for no TCO has to be balanced with other design > considerations. > >> > > I do mind hearing that what is an actual problem for me is not an > >> > > actual problem for me. > >> > > >> > > -- > >> > > -- Anne Paulson > >> > > >> > > He who wills the ends wills the means- Hide quoted text - > >> > > >> > - Show quoted text - > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > (505) 227-0523 > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > Robert Harrison > rfharri...@gmail.com > statrixblog.statrix.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. 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