Yeah, remind me to never ever, ever-never ask a question on the
internets!!!!



On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Robert F. Harrison <rfharri...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Actually I think this round of TCO discussion was started off with this
> innocuous little query...
>
> Subject: TCO on an Atlantis?
> Morning query:  With BIG 50mm or larger tires on a 700c Atlantis, are
> there TCO issues?
> Enjoy a Sunday ride!
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
>
>
> Grant did start this particular thread in response to that thread which
> also diverged into a thread about tire width side of things. So while he may
> have started the thread, he did not start the topic, he was responding to
> it, albeit using a different subject line.
>
> Apparently I don't have anything better to do today than sort through old
> email. :-)
>
> And, if one really wanted to go back, I thinking one could claim this is
> all just an extension of the 12/1/2007 (!) topic:
>
> Not The Last Word on TCO ( http://goo.gl/SaGU )
>
>
>
> One my QB (700c/35mm/fendered/big feet/no clips) I did experience a wee bit
> of TCO (no consequences) the first day I rode it and, having noted it, have
> never had a problem since then. At least on my bike it isn't particularly
> hard to avoid, even at low speed.
>
> Aloha! Bob
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Rene Valbuena <valbu...@ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I do have a life. that's why i don't reply to any all topics here;-) if
> grant did not start the thread, who did? isn't it if your name is on top of
> the topic or the first one, it is considered that you started the topic? --
> rene
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PATRICK MOORE
> > Sent: Feb 4, 2010 12:13 PM
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: TCO in general..
> >
> > Actually, Grant didn't start the thread.
> >
> > But I think it is time for other entrail readings and that we should move
> on to analyzing Grant's wardrobe or his deoderant or something. I don't like
> his haircut. Anyone else care to chime in?
> >
> > Christ! Let's all get ourselves lives!
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Rene <valbu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> TCO is a problem to me which I have learned to live with with all the
> >> Rivendell models I have owned. But this does not leave me less
> >> sensitive to GP's choice of words on this matter either. I hope
> >> Rivendell Bicycle Works will put out a chart or a table indicating at
> >> what size(s) among their models is TCO not going to be "a problem"
> >> even with a size 12 feet or shoes. Or even a smaller size if 12 is a
> >> bigger average. Some may tell me that I should tell this directly to
> >> RBW. But I thought since GP started this subject on this forum, I can
> >> propose it here.
> >>
> >> -- Rene
> >>
> >> On Feb 3, 2:12 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
> >> > Anne and James:
> >> >
> >> > I will readily concede that TCO not being a concern to me left less
> >> > sensitive to GP's choice of words.
> >> >
> >> > On Feb 3, 1:05 pm, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:48 AM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com>
> wrote:
> >> > > >> Those who design bicycles would be urged to consider customers
> like
> >> > > >> myself, recognize that TCO is an offense (however significant),
> and
> >> > > >> deal with it proactively, either by eliminating it, or
> acknowledging
> >> > > >> that it is a necessary evil (however significant) to be
> tolerated.
> >> >
> >> > > > Isn't that what Grant says in his post?
> >> >
> >> > > He said: "TCO ends up being a problem---in my opinion---only in
> >> > > theoretics, but not in practice."
> >> >
> >> > > For me, TCO is a problem in practice. I don't mind hearing that the
> >> > > desire for no TCO has to be balanced with other design
> considerations.
> >> > > I do mind hearing that what is an actual problem for me is not an
> >> > > actual problem for me.
> >> >
> >> > > --
> >> > > -- Anne Paulson
> >> >
> >> > > He who wills the ends wills the means- Hide quoted text -
> >> >
> >> > - Show quoted text -
> >>
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