We'll just have to wait patiently for the geo charts to be released for the 
MIT versions.  Even more important will be actual butt-on-seat ride 
reports.  We ride bikes, not numbers.  

Over time, the Atlantis chainstays have gradually grown.  The old flyer I 
have from when I bought my '03 lists 44 cm stays on sizes 47 to 56, the 
45.5 cm stays on 58 to 68.  The geo chart on the website for current models 
lists 46 cm stays on the smallest sizes and various longer ones on larger. 
A good product gets incremental improvements over time.  

Maybe we've gotten ourselves wrapped around the axle on this stay 
question?  Rivendell has pretty darn good judgment on these things, and I 
think we'll be pleasantly surprised with the result.

dougP  

On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 8:07:29 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> 2 things. 
> I have a 2017 650b Atlantis that has somewhat longer (though still 
> acceptably long) stays than previous atlanti and I think it is essentially 
> a perfect bike.The only anxiety I have about it has to do with future 
> potential unavailability of parts, which has nothing to do with riv. My 
> understanding of the new new model’s chainstay length is that it is even 
> longer. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think if you compare a, say, 2012 Atlantis 
> to one of the new new Atlantis, you’d get more than a 13mm chainstay 
> difference. Not saying that’s good or bad, I’m just saying that adding 13mm 
> to to a bike that had 13mm added to it last year doesn’t =13mm for most 
> people. 
>
> Secondly, losing that Appaloosa crown would be truly awful. It needs to be 
> on some Rivendell bike always. 

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