RE Geometry: I haven't delved into the details too deeply yet, but speaking personally as one who long wanted but never quite fit one of the old Atlanti sizes - nor *most* of the more recent 6 degree models - these appear to be* just different enough*! I'd have adequate stand over clearance on the 56 - comparable to the old 58 - but also an adequate top tube length, comparable to the old 61. Combined with the new, progressive geometry that makes it unique compared to anything else I own, I don't think I could ask for more of a reason to get one.
BTW, maybe someone from Riv can confirm but, from recent conversations and research I've gathered that the standover height listings are based on the absolute fattest, knobbiest tire that can be squeezed into the frame. That's exactly how I'd use it so it's nice to know for me, but there might be even more flexibility for most people. RE Pre-Sale: Anybody know the details of how this will work? Is there a limited timeframe, limited number of each size available, etc.? I want to do it but I have to wait for some clients to pay their invoices. On the other hand, I won't be able to afford wheels for quite a while, so the main motivator is taking advantage of a discount and giving Riv some cash flow. How much of a discount do we suppose there is? If I recall, the pre-sale discounts on the Joe completes were pretty sizeable, but those on frames aren't typically as big. Mostly I don't want to worry about pulling it together in time if it's going to be a stress inducer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.