sounds neat Eric, can you offer photos?  

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:56:25 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Joe:
>
> I have IGH on two bikes—both are Sturmey Archer’s S3X fixed-gear 
> three-speed, modified with a spin-on single speed freewheel to become more 
> like a standard hub (coasting). This setup is stronger and simpler than a 
> standard three-speed, because there are no pawls inside the hub (they are 
> usually what breaks). All of the pawls are outside in a freewheel that can 
> be easily replaced or repaired. I use White Industeries’ “Eno” freewheel 
> and have never had any problems.
>
> I did have a Sturdy Archer hub once that developed a mechanical problem, 
> but that was limited to not having a couple of the gears. Yes, it was a 
> pain having to send the wheel back to them (Napa, CA) for repair.
>
> In support of IGHs, I would point out that if any of us were out in the 
> middle of nowhere and a brifter decided to die, we would be basically out 
> of luck. Back in the day, you could repair Campy Ergo levers, but even then 
> you needed a workbench and tools.
>
> IGHs make for a cleaner-looking bike without all the dangly derailleur 
> bits, they’re (mostly) immune to weather, and they force you to be a 
> stronger rider. 
>
> --Eric N
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> On Jun 7, 2018, at 8:26 AM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> I had a chat with Grant a few months ago about IGH which was mostly two 
> guys agreeing with each other, so take that for what it's worth. I don't 
> hate 'em and I don't think he does, either; my complaint is the "no 
> maintenance" marketing-speak that proponents invariably present as a 
> feature over a cassette and derailer. I don't know what the heck is going 
> on inside that hub, and wouldn't have the first clue how to fix it if it 
> crunched to a halt out on the road. I can see and get to the workings of a 
> cassette and derailer, and when a derailer gets wonky I can either adjust 
> the shifting or leave it on one cog and ride home. There's also the matter 
> of getting an IGH out of the frame to fix a flat. 
>
> In summary: Heavy, not no maintenance, harder to remove a wheel on the 
> road. I've never been convinced an IGH solves a problem caused by a 
> cassette and derailer, which I think is where GP is coming from on the 
> issue. 
>
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