Yes, there is this prescribed notion you have to wear one or the other. I 
wear from road riding clothes where it makes sense to me (lighter helmet, 
sunglasses, gloves, bright colored windbreakers/rain jacket), and wear 
"comfy" clothes where it makes sense (wool tee shirts, wool pants, 
waterproof hiking shoes, tennis shoes, etc).

I think it's because most of my riding is commuting and recreational, so I 
make a lot of stops, but I also ride for long periods and for long 
distances each outing.

On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 1:18:44 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> How Patrick, 
>
> Well, I *did *warn you to use discretion in reading this account. And 
> while I did poke fun, the point wasn’t to laugh about people riding what 
> they want. It is to illustrate (using humor) how the culture has taken the 
> simplicity of a bike ride and sucked every drop of enjoyment out of it. The 
> special shoes and special clothes and special bike all worked together to 
> make the couple’s experience rather miserable. They will never admit this. 
> Burdened time and time again by their racing-inspired bikes and kit, they, 
> in saving their grams, knew best. And when Christine orders her new bike, 
> it will be another racing bike, because the industry told her it’s the best 
> and she will believe that. Even when her “undercarriage” is flaming from 
> spending miles in her skimpy saddle. Even when she’s tipped over on the 
> street, trapped in her pedals. Even when she doesn’t feel she can go to the 
> museum without a costume change. Even when Dan (an ortho doc) must be 
> hunched over portaging his backpack because a rack would add precious grams 
> to his race bike, they will still believe. 
>
> That is why this is so interesting and even amusing. Even when presented 
> with stark evidence that racing gear is not meant for the majority of 
> riders, people will still insist it’s the standard. This vignette was just 
> a plucky little reference to that. 
>
> But yes, I hear you. I’m a believer in freedom and riding what you want. I 
> just wish people would ignore racing’s influence and ride what MAKES SENSE. 
> Maybe we’d have more people on bikes if that were the case. What a win that 
> would be!
>
> Enjoy your bike and keep on riding! You are an example to us!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 7, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> A good story. But every story needs a counter story. Mine is attached as a 
> jpeg.
>
> I've owned 3 Riv Road customs and 5 Rivendells -- Sam and Ram as well as 
> the customs. I have to say that the one pictured (1999) is the most 
> comfortable bike I've owned in a long life of buying and flipping bikes; if 
> someone held a gun to my head and said: "Choose One!", I'd have to choose 
> this one.
>
> Note that I ride it in Rapha touring shorts over boxers, when I'm not 
> riding it in cut off khakis over boxers; no gloves or helment, and in SPDs 
> (7410s). I have an almost-identical one built up with dyno lights, fenders 
> (high desert!), and f and r racks for groceries and errands.
>
> More seriously, I think everyone should ride what he or she likes to ride. 
> I do know that we are all influenced in our views of "normal" by what we 
> grew up with; that itself is normal. I got "serious" about cycling about 
> 1969, age 14 -- perhaps earlier, because I was "hot rodding" my bikes at 12 
> and 13 -- and built my first bike from scratch in 1970 (Indian roadster 
> frame bought at a Nairobi bike shop; donated 700C Czecho steel flip flop 
> rear, 24" front stolen from my brother's kiddie bike -- no brake fit. I 
> recall, on home leaves, annoying the owners of Genevan and Parisian news 
> kiosks by my halting French attempts to identify which cycling sportif mag 
> I wanted from the vast displays. I also recall scouring the slim selection 
> of cycling books in the Nairobi public library.
>
> Let's not be too quick to laugh at others; in my own case, I know I have 
> plenty to laugh at in myself.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I just got off the phone with my sister. She accompanied a married couple 
>> who are dear friends from out east to Duluth, MN where they hit the bike 
>> trails and saw all the sights. Heather knows very little about Rivendell, 
>> but is tolerant of my enthusiasm for all things Grant and Co. When she told 
>> me this story we laughed until our sides hurt and I knew I had to retell it 
>> to a sympathetic audience. Now, here is the DISCLAIMER: Some of you like 
>> racy, skinny, lightweight bikes. Some of you appreciate the roadie life. 
>> Some of you are partial to drop bars and clipless pedals. And that’s 
>> lovely, and we are among friends here, but I’m about to poke fun of all 
>> those things. I don’t mean to offend, but I do so love to laugh, so I hope 
>> you will forgive me for being offensive this one time, and just giggle with 
>> me for a bit. If you are feeling gracious, and you like a little satire in 
>> your life, please do read on! If not, stop HERE...
>>
>> It was the first morning, and the plan was to hit the bike trails early 
>> and see some historic sights in the city. Heather dressed in a breezy, 
>> colorful, summery outfit, and bounded downstairs to the lobby. Christine 
>> and Dan arrived, looked at Heather, disbelieving and said, “Is that what 
>> you’re wearing?!” Heather looked back at them, eyes roving over their 
>> unusual outfits. They were covered in colorful, skin-tight lycra. They 
>> donned shorts that were oddly padded and somewhat profane, as their 
>> crotches were accentuated and bulging. Their shoes were weird, and made 
>> sharp clicks on the tile with every step. “Is that what YOU’RE wearing?!” 
>> Heather gasped. 
>>
>> Ah, but they are good friends, so everyone shrugged and headed out the 
>> door. They made their way to their bikes, where they were about to have 
>> their next mutual shock. Heather has a lovely red Biria, bedecked with 
>> racks and a basket and capped with a nice, wide saddle. Hers are romantic, 
>> swept-back handlebars, and her tires are smartly covered with fenders. She 
>> has chosen this bike because she has commuted downtown for years in several 
>> cities and these attributes of the bike are the ones that make sense to 
>> her. She has never read Grant’s book. She doesn’t care about online forums 
>> or bike literature. She arrived at these conclusions because she knows that 
>> they work. Thus, when she looked over at her friends’ carbon racing 
>> machines, she couldn’t help but gawk. Dan’s bike is a 20 year old carbon 
>> machine, and Christine’s carbon bike was purchased in October. No fenders. 
>> No racks (Dan had a giant backpack he was carrying like a pack mule, and 
>> the day was a sweltering one.). Christine and Dan mounted their bikes and 
>> suddenly their feet were glued to their pedals. What fresh horror was this? 
>> My sister kept staring at this couple struggling to release their feet from 
>> these traps at every intersection and stop. Christine was less skilled at 
>> this, and at one of their stops she tipped over, padded shorts and all. 
>> “Why do you use those?” Heather asked incredulously, pointing to the 
>> pedals. “Oh, these REALLY help with efficiency,” explained Dan, as 
>> Christine scraped herself off the pavement. 
>>
>> They reached their first destination. There was a lovely waterfall to 
>> appreciate, so they dismounted and made their way to it. Clickety-clack, 
>> clickety-clack went the Efficiency Shoes on the boardwalk. The rest of the 
>> afternoon was much like that, and 25 miles later, so ended the first day.
>>
>> The next morning found the couple dithering about what to wear. They were 
>> going out for a nice lunch and to visit a local museum, and the couple was 
>> in a quandary about their clothes. They were biking so they needed “bike 
>> clothes.” But they were also planning to do fun, touristy things, so they 
>> needed “normal clothes.”  They didn’t want to wear the clickety-clacks, but 
>> their pedals called for it.  “I don’t know if I can ride my bike without my 
>> padded shorts,” said Christine. They compromised. They put on normal 
>> clothing with their clickety-clacks. Then they stuffed extra shoes into 
>> Dan’s large backpack. They pedaled off, crotches on fire, Dan sweating 
>> under the weight strapped to his back. 
>>
>> “Why do you have that bike seat if it hurts to ride it?” asked Heather, 
>> genuinely curious. 
>>
>> “Oh, well, I probably save 5 grams using this one!” crowed Dan, “And you 
>> may not think that sounds like much, but a few grams here and a few grams 
>> there really adds up!” 
>>
>> They continued on, where their way was impeded by several puddles. 
>> Heather lifted her legs up and sailed gleefully through the water, outfit 
>> intact and free of mud. Oddly, she was alone. She looked back and saw her 
>> friends, who had come almost to a halt, negotiating their way around the 
>> puddles. “Do fenders add weight too?” Heather asked. “Yes,” they said. “And 
>> we don’t really ride around puddles anyway, so we never need them.” 
>>
>> After they got to the museum, they locked their bikes up. Broad daylight, 
>> to a bike rack, they with cable locks and Heather with a U-lock. When they 
>> returned, an employee was wheeling Dan’s bike away from the rack, it’s 
>> cable lock cut and dangling uselessly from the frame. “Hey, that’s my 
>> bike!” Dan called to the employee. The employee had noticed the cable was 
>> cut, and being rather astute, she chose to take the bike to safety and was 
>> heading inside with it. Relieved, Dan took possession of his bike, which 
>> was about when Christine noticed that hers was nowhere in sight. Poor 
>> Christine was not so lucky that day. Some dirty rotten thief made off with 
>> her new bike, and even if it is The Most Disappointing Bike, (and not 
>> TBBITW) it’s tragic to lose it. There is something raw and personal about 
>> having something stolen from you. My hopeful mind prompts me that this is 
>> the opportunity to slide in a good word for Rivendell, now that Christine 
>> is in the market for a new bike. I should get her phone number. It’s 
>> probably too soon….yeah, it’s definitely too soon.
>>
>> As we laughed about poor Christine and Dan (though NOT about the stolen 
>> bike), Heather marveled, “I have never ridden with anyone who had a race 
>> bike. I just can’t fathom having a bike that does only one thing. I mean, 
>> why? They can’t even wear normal clothes! They are in pain every time they 
>> mount those skimpy saddles and for what? Are we in the Tour de Minnesota? 
>> Are we saving a whole 30 seconds by leaving off our fenders and wearing the 
>> clickety-clacks??? And why the rush? I would never bike if that's what I 
>> had to go through.” 
>>
>> Of course we’ve all read Just Ride, and we’re got Rivendells because we 
>> subscribe to these theories, but it was rejuvenating to see the velosophy 
>> worked out in real life. Heather's husband (also a recent victim of bike 
>> theft) had his first real Rivendell, a 59 Clem L delivered to their local 
>> bike shop for assembly today. He wasn’t a Rivendell fan either, but they 
>> were the lone makers of a step-through in his size, so he gave them the 
>> money. I think they are going to appreciate it even more after this. 
>>
>> Now that you've let me have this one indulgence, please forgive me and 
>> have a lovely evening.
>>
>> Leah
>> Owner of The Best Bike In the World (TBBITW)
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