That makes perfect sense Zed. So, you currently ride the L?
Doug. 

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> On Sep 13, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Zed Martinez <iamzedmarti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Doug, having owned one of each:
> 
> If for you (the generic you, not necessarily actually you) the Clem is a 
> trail/rough-road bike, and you have good flexibility, the H makes more sense. 
> It's more rigid, and very obviously shows its old MTB inspiration.
> 
> If for you the Clem is a commuter and city bike, the L offers the easier 
> step-through, an easier way to carry it through doors (by grabbing the loop 
> of the frame. This has actually been way handier than I expected when I 
> switched), and somewhat less often mentioned is it makes the bike look a lot 
> more laid back for the same geometry and at least where I am drivers are 
> considerably more likely to stop and yield for me, and I get more smiles from 
> people. It gives that more 'urbane' look and there are benefits to that.
> 
> If you like nice details, the newer Clem L frames have the heart lug at the 
> seat tube, and that's a fancier touch.
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 1:46:16 PM UTC-4, Doug H. wrote:
>> I’ve been wondering what the appeal is of the L as opposed to the H Clem. Is 
>> it just the ease of stepping through/onto and off of the bike? 
>> Doug
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