So I had a moment of clarity and it occurred to me while riding 
earlier today that with Riv's inboard shifter placement they've actually 
reversed the location of the left/right shifters to the opposite side so 
they may be oriented on the inside of the bar like that.  I now recall 
there being mention of that back when Clem was first released (maybe in the 
brochure?) but now I realize why the importance of friction on both 
sides... otherwise that puts indexed rear shifting on the left side of the 
bar if keeping the pods placed/oriented the same way.  Probably doable 
after an adjustment period even though I'd prefer the rear indexing on the 
right side but more importantly I definitely want to keep the pods where 
they are as it frees up the bar to slide my grip fore/aft more easily.  
Thanks again, Joe, but don't think it would work out as intended so I'll 
stick with the stock shifters for now.

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 1:28:47 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

> I'm going to guess yes because I mounted a Shimano downtuber on one to 
> replace the original 8-speed SunRace thumbshifter. Or I can just send you 
> that shifter for shipping cost..let me know if you want it. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 10:01:45 AM UTC-7, Coal Bee Rye Anne 
> wrote: 
> > I just recently stumbled upon these.. anyone know if these SunXCD 
> downtube shifters with 7/8sp indexed rear would install directly into the 
> stock Clem shifter pods? 
> > https://store.somafab.com/su78spdosh.html 
> > 
> > 
> > Brian Cole 
> > Lawrenceville, NJ 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 4:51:21 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote: 
> > 
> > The good news about my Clem is that I've been riding it a lot more since 
> I moved.  I now live on a busy 4 lane highway with no shoulders, so I was 
> having to either brave the traffic to get to a side street or trail, or put 
> the bike on the car, which I hate to do if I'm just going out for a fun 
> ride.  I found a gravel path behind my condo complex that goes about a 
> quarter mile to the next cross street to the highway.  From there I can 
> cross the highway and access the regional mixed terrain trail system.   
> > 
> > 
> > The shortcut I found has got pretty rough big-ish rocks so I am loath to 
> ride my more roadish Rivendells with their relatively fragile Compass 
> tires.  The Clem though tackles this section with aplumb so I find myself 
> wheeling it out for rides more than my other bikes.  I also find the 
> traction just a little bit better on the pea gravel sections of the 
> regional trails, where the slick Compass tires might kick out a bit going 
> around a corner, the Clem and it's big Kendas track straight and true where 
> I point my wheels.  It just feels a little less squirrely, so to say. 
> > 
> > Which is a good segue into what I don't like.  I bought my 65 ClemH 
> complete and one of the things that it came with that I am not super 
> enamored of is the Bosco bars.  This may sound odd since they are 58cm wide 
> (I think) but they feel too narrow and too far back for me.  I feel like I 
> might hit them with my knees when I'm out riding.  I feel I would prefer a 
> bar with less intrusion into my midsection.  I'd also prefer something a 
> little less upright, which I think having a bar that's not so far into my 
> midsection will take care of itself.  It just doesn't feel dialed in the 
> way it is now. 
> > 
> > 
> > Looking around on Rivendell's website, I like the look of the Billie 
> bars.  I'm just not sure if 58 will be wide enough for my preference.  I'm 
> thinking maybe because they flare out a lot more and much less back than 
> the Boscos, that the 58 might be fine in this form factor.  Truth is my 
> drop bar bikes are only 48cm so having a bar not so far back like the 
> Billie would work I think 
> > 
> > 
> > Or there is the Aherne+MAP handlebar which is 61.5 cm wide in the wider 
> version. 
> > https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar if you're not 
> familar.  I still have some store credit at Rivendell though so this route 
> would cost me more out of pocket. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anyone tried either of these bars on their Clem? 
> > 
> > 
> > The other thing I don't like is friction shifting.  Does Microshift or 
> SunRace make an indexed 8 speed thumbie?  I was hoping to re-use the thumb 
> pod and just get the shifter part of it, but I can only find 8 speed in 
> friction.  I could switch to Shimano 8 which would require a different 
> thumb pod or go 9 speed indexed T09 Microshift thumbies which would require 
> a 9 speed cassette and potentially a different derailer. 
> > 
> > 
> > Any thoughts? 
> > 
> > 
> > -Jim 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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