We have an early '80s Trek 613 in the collection. It's a relaxed frame road bike. It has regular, not oversized, Renolds 531 tubes and was built in the USA. In short: a light tubeset, fully lugged. In many respects I think it is like the Rodeo design-wise. It is the daily rider for one of my sons.
It came to us with a 700c x 28mm wheel/tire setup. It had room for 36mm tires and we moved to that spec, before wider tires became fashionable. The 36 mm tires simply work better. The bike definitely planes. I dislike that term, but that is the descriptor word used here. I am skeptical that it is because of frame flex. I think planing is a consequence of having the correct rotating mass from your wheel set. I theorize that rotating mass can be tuned for rider weight and rider position on frame. The bike was decent with the 28s, but it feels more "energetic" with 36s. More rotating mass feels like less pedal input is needed to maintain speed. I recently put 28s back on the bike while we upgraded to a dynamo wheel. The difference was noticable, and not better. For my son tire width is not a cush/comfort/gravel issue, It is a handling and ride feel issue. We are back to the 36s with a front dynamo. I suggest you consider 36s or similar for the Rodeo. I think the bike will ride better. Will On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 7:29:55 AM UTC-5, David Wadstrup wrote: > > Hello, > > > I’m the proud owner of a beautiful, new-to-me Roadeo frameset that I > recently purchased here from another group member. My plan is to take my > time building it up over the course of winter, with a May 1st goal of > getting it out on the road. As I am also the proud owner of a few other > bikes(some Rivendells) I have a pretty specific, narrowly focused idea in > mind regarding the Roadeo. Essentially, I’d like it to be pared down > accessory-wise, light and fast, with an 11 speed Shimano drivetrain and STI > shifters. Unlike my other bikes, I’d like this one to be a sort of one > trick pony — light, fast and agile. I’ll never mount racks or bags or even > fenders on this bike(I have this covered with my other bikes.) For the most > part, it’ll be a fair weather bike. I may occasionally commute on it, but > I won’t ever have the need for it to carry anything or to protect me or > itself from foul weather. > > > My I I ask for your help? I’ve spent quite a bit of time researching > component choices, but could use some real world, Riv based advice. For > the sake of ease, I thought it best that I divide this into a few different > threads. Today’s is wheels. I’ll follow it up with brakes and bars and > cranks, etc. > > > Here's what I've been thinking so far.... > > > I’ll be running 700c x 28 clinchers and will not ever have the need or > desire to run anything larger than, say, 700c x 32. I’d like polished > silver rims with polished silver hubs both with an aesthetic appropriate > for this vintage/modern looking frame. I’ve narrowed my rim and hub choices > down to 2, but am open to other suggestions should they meet my criteria. > > > > Rims: > > > Velocity Quill. I really like Velocity rims, but have no experience with > the Quills. They come in polished silver and seem to be Velocity’s best > choice for a fast, light wheel build. I know a lot of people ride the A23s, > but for some reason I’m just not interested in them. > > > H Son Plus TB14. I’ve only just learned about these, but people on the > internet seem to be very happy with them. They have the look I’m after and > also seem to be a good choice for a light-ish fast wheelset. I think > I'm leaning toward these just to try out a different maker's rims, but am > really torn and am hoping for a nudge in one direction of the other. > > > > > Hubs: > > > White Industries T11, front and back. I have a rear MI5 on my AHH and > really like it. They’re made here in the US which I like and they aren’t > too noisy. I was pretty much settled on the T11s for this build, but then > learned about.... > > > Phil’s road hubs. I also have a Phil rear touring hub which I also really > like. In fact, it’s my favorite hub as it spins silently. But the Phil road > hubs are significantly heavier than the T11s. They are also more costly and > being different than their touring hub may sound differently. I’m not super > concerned with weight, but if all else is equal(including durability,) > weight could be a deciding factor. > > > What do you all think? Does anyone have experience with these rims/hubs? > Is there something else you'd suggest. I've heard HED makes good rims that > would be Roadeo appropriate, but they seem to only come in black with > pretty pronounced graphics. I like the bling of polished silver, but not > bling-y logos. What would you choose in my place? I should mention I’m a > 165lb rider, and I’d likely choose 32 spokes, front and back. Unless, of > course, someone feels like I could get away with 28 up front. > > > I’d love to hear any advice you’re willing to offer. Thank you for your > help. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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