Yes, Jeremy, the tiny gap between the fender material and the underside of 
the brake caliper either demands a bigger gap with a dimple, or needs to be 
taken to zero with a squishy shim material that will quiet things.  Those 
two options will be in the suggestion box.  

BL in EC

On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 1:05:17 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> I ran into a similar issue with the super skinny Honjos over Ruffy Tuffies 
> that came on the used Rambouillet I bought over the summer: 
>
> <https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1815/43894877631_4d2ab4479f_k.jpg>
>
> When first had the bike, the front fender would rattle over everything. I 
> spent some time in the garage in September and now it doesn't, although I 
> can't say exactly why. I changed two things: 
>
> 1. I tweaked the fender line and alignment so that it followed the wheel 
> better and was straight over the tire (when I first got it, the front part 
> of the fender curved off to one side).
> 2. I put a couple of layers of electrical tape over the fender right where 
> it passed under the brake, figuring it might help to dampen vibrations if 
> there was contact there.  
>
> The fender is quiet now. I can't say if 1 or 2 made the difference. 
> Knowing Bill, he's probably already done #1 as much as possible.  Maybe #2 
> might help?
>
> The only thing that still rattles on the Rambouillet are my preferred 
> Klean Kanteens in the beautiful but flimsy Nitto bottle cage. It may get 
> swapped for a King Iris at some point but it's a shame not to use such a 
> nice looking cage on a nice looking bike.  
>
> I might still try a second set of stays for the fender forward of the 
> fork, as there's a lot of overhang there and the fender still vibrates a 
> lot over bumps even if it's quiet.  The fender already has a hole up there 
> suggesting somebody did so, or attached it to a front rack, before.  
>
> On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 11:02:58 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> [image: IMG_1240.jpg]
>>
>>
>> The rain has finally come to California, which triggered a couple new 
>> aluminum fender installations in my stable.  My 57cm Leo Roadini was one of 
>> the bikes to get new aluminum fenders.  Velo Orange has their really skinny 
>> ones on clearance, so I gave it a shot.  In order to maximize tire 
>> clearance I also switched to skinny Soma New Express tires, which measure a 
>> true 27mm on really narrow rims.  The tires are labelled 700x28.  The 
>> fender lines turned out well, and they were silent in the stand.  I'm 
>> really happy with how the bike looks with black aluminum fenders.  
>>
>> But...The front fender is super noisy.  In order to get good tire 
>> clearance, I needed to run it way up close to the brake caliper, and every 
>> little vibration caused that tiny gap from fender to brake caliper to 
>> rattle.  It was pretty annoying.  It had me thinking that since my stable 
>> of bikes is pretty huge, not every bike has to have fenders.  I could 
>> afford to have a stripped down road bike without fenders and use it only on 
>> dry days.  It also had me thinking that skinny fenders are just not very 
>> good.  I've also got a couple modification ideas.  That front extension of 
>> the front fender doesn't really get me anything, and it really is kind of a 
>> floppy diving board in this flimsy narrow width.  I could modify the 
>> fenders to make that extension a lot shorter.  I think I could shorten it a 
>> fair bit in back as well and elevate where the stay mounts to stiffen up 
>> that section a little bit more.  
>>
>> The good news from this 40 mile commute this morning is that the skinny 
>> 700x28 New Express tires rode just fine for me.  I was worried that my fat 
>> Compass Tire leanings were going to make me hate skinny tires.  They seemed 
>> fine.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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