IMHO and this is coming from the way I know I ride... the Cliffhangers are not a good rim for a tire in the 2.8 inch range. I have Cliffhangers on my Appaloosa running 57mm G Ones and I just don't see how a 2.8 would ride well off road (it would be terribly balloon like), especially if you are thinking about putting knobbies on it...you know, for actual dirt riding. I like the Cliffhanger for the Appaloosa and have it setup tubeless...it's a great setup with the 57mm G ones.
I have a new Trek Remedy 9.8 that is running 27+ tires, 2.6 inch stock tires on 30mm rims and the setup works very well. I think 30mm or above is the width you want to start looking at for a tire that is 2.8 in width. The thing is that with a wider tire you will be riding a lower air pressure, and if you have it ballooned out you really are risking folding the tire when you hit a turn at speed. Now, this is totally dependent on how you ride and what, if any, trails you are going to ride. For me, if the cliffhanger is the widest rim I got, I'm going to stick with a tire in the 2.2 to 2.4inch width and I think the Gus will probably handle pretty great with those size tires. Can owners comment on the wider tires with the cliffhanger rims and v brake arms? Does the roundness of the tire and having a further reach for the brake pad to contact the rim seem to interfere at all with the v brake arms? - Ryan (who thinks disc brakes like the Paul Klampers are a lot better than rim brakes ;) ) On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 12:06:08 AM UTC-5, Ed Carolipio wrote: > Ah, I see I am not the only ed obsessing over narrow non-disc rims with > 27.5+ tires... > > The Cliffhanger has an interior width of 25mm. The bike came stock with > Cliffhangers and 2.8" G-One Allrounders, so my guess is folks on the board > who've demoed this Gus at Riv and had All-Rounders also had the same rim. I > did a casual road ride with that setup with no issues, though I do worry if > I do anything on the trails the tires would get squirmy. I was monitoring > the GBW thread and that seemed to be a consensus opinion. > > Would be curious to hear about from GBW owners on what riding the > aggressively was like. (Sadly, I won't get a chance to do that anytime > soon, otherwise I'd report on it.) Also appreciate any leads on a 650b rim > with a brake track and an internal width closer to 30mm... > > > --Ed C. > > > On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 7:23:22 PM UTC-7, ed wrote: >> >> Hi Ed!, >> Would you mind sharing the rim size of the Cliffhanger of your GBW? >> Thanks :-) >> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 10:00 AM Ed Carolipio <ed.car...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I had/have (still packing it for sale) a 51cm Joe. I got the Small GBW >>> prototype and adjusted it into "commuter mode" recently. Key build >>> differences with the Joe vs GBW: 55cm Albas with a 9cm Nitto Technomic stem >>> vs 710mm Jones Loop with a 30mm Spank stem; 2.0" Marathon Supremes on VO >>> Diagonales vs 2.35" G-One Speeds on Velocity Cliffhangers; and Sugino XD600 >>> cranks vs Silver cranks. Everything else is roughly the same, and I ride >>> the same urban, all pavement route with the same load to work. >>> >>> The one sentence summary on the GBW: there's no mistaking it's a >>> mountain bike. It may have a rack and notionally street tires, but the ride >>> rhymes with all the mountain bikes I've owned. I read all of that Mongolian >>> riding stuff that Grant wrote about and thought, yeah, sure, Grant, >>> whatever, you're the crazy man riding into chest deep pools of water in >>> your Ethiopian shoes, but after riding the GBW I kinda get what he's >>> saying. >>> >>> I also like the swoopy top tube since I can mount the bike without >>> having to swing my leg over the seat and standover is one less thing to >>> worry about when the terrain gets uneven or when tackling a challenging >>> part of a trail. >>> >>> For me, I picked the GBW over the Joe because I wanted a mountain bike >>> that I could commute with during the week, and I like the ride of fat >>> tires. The GBW will likely outshine the Joe on single track while lightly >>> loaded, while the Joe would outperform the GBW when hauling a load or >>> pounding out miles on maintained gravel roads. >>> >>> >>> --Ed C. >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 11:31:38 AM UTC-7, Jonathan D. wrote: >>>> >>>> Thoughts on how the Gus’ ride will compare to the Joe and Atlantis? I >>>> don’t have a sense of the geometry differences beyond the fat whee >>>> options. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
