But on the other hand, I remember mountain biking back in the day, when
every crash would involve straightening out the threaded stem before I
could get back on the trail. This never happens with threadless... though
maybe in part because I crash less now than I used to.

Eric

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 6:24 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> You’re right—I don’t do this often. However, in 2007 when I was near the
> finish of PBP and suffering from some pretty bad numbness in my hands, it
> was *so* helpful to be able to raise the stem easily on the road. That took
> some weight off my hands and allowed me to finish the ride (although my
> hands were tingly and a bit weak for several months after).
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:22 PM, William deRosset <wmderos...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Try changing the height of your bars on the road with a threadless stem.
> If you set it up correctly (extra length in the steerer+ extra spacers), it
> can be done ... but it will take ten times longer than with a quill stem.
>
> Dear Eric,
>
> If one is in the habit of constantly changing one's bar height without
> making corresponding changes to one's stem extension, you are correct.
>
> If one adjusts both height and reach in tandem (necessary in my
> experience), then most quill setups (which do not have removable face
> plates) are a bigger pain than playing musical removable-faceplate stems.
>
> If one more-or-less sets the handlebar position and doesn't mess with it
> (most riders I know fall into this latter bin), then this disadvantage is
> not really a significant one.
>
> My René Herse has the awkward combination of a one-off clamp-on stem and
> threaded headset, and the only time it bugs me (besides aesthetically--it
> is not an elegant engineering solution in my opinion) is about every four
> years, when I travel by air with it and have to pull the fork. I could
> freely adjust the bar height, though...
>
> Finally, how often do you actually change stem height *during a ride*
> once your fit is dialed in? My frequency is zero (since 1976).
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Will
> William M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
>
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 8:11:43 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Try changing the height of your bars on the road with a threadless stem.
>> If you set it up correctly (extra length in the steerer+ extra spacers), it
>> can be done ... but it will take ten times longer than with a quill stem.
>>
>> OTOH, it’s impossible to get a threadless stem stuck inside the steerer,
>> which has happened on several of my standard-quill bikes.
>>
>> Eric N
>> www.CampyOnly.com <http://www.campyonly.com/>
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>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>> On Apr 14, 2019, at 8:49 PM, hugh flynn <hugf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The ease of adjustment for threadless stems is indeed so great that it is
>> astounding how hard it can be to describe properly...
>>
>> That said, the gains offered by simplicity are offset by the frequency
>> with which one has to do it. For all the claimed complexity of threaded
>> headset adjustmemt, one doesn't have to fiddle with headset preload when
>> changing or adjusting a quill stem.
>>
>> Hugh "net gain is null" Flynn
>> Newburyport, MA
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 11:07 PM Drw <drewbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. This is what kept me away from threadless for so long. It seemed so
>>> complicated based on descriptions. In reality it’s super simple. So much so
>>> that I questioned what I was doing the first few times. “Is the stem bolt
>>> actually holding the fork on the bike?” Still runs thru my head.
>>>
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