I have a 79.5 cm PBH, so I can relate from a height standpoint. I have a 54 cm 1st generation Homer. It is a wonderful bike, no doubt, but since then I've gotten my 52.5 cm custom with long chainstays. When I am riding on the road, the long chainstays just add much more stability without affecting the mobility/liveliness of the ride at all. In fact, I find myself going down S. Park (infamous for the Strava downhill death) and I am a bit scared with my Homer because it is not as stable as my custom. I think it just tracks better on turns too, so if you like twisty descents, then having the long chainstays helps me. You might wonder if there's something special about my custom bike vs the Homer. I haven't ridden the new AHH, but rode the new Atlantis and it's wonderful. I rode the blue Rosco Bubbe road model --that was a very lively and responsive bike that I rode; Grant based my custom chainstays on my appreciation of the handling of that bike. I would guess that the AHH is designed similarly to the road Rosco models.
With that said, Rivendell bikes tend to be very sensitive to weight shifts, rather than sensitive to steering changes. If you appreciate the Rivendell responsiveness to weight shifts, then I'm sure you will love the new AHH. Toshi On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 11:07 AM Jason Fuller <jtf.ful...@gmail.com> wrote: > Interesting history, j.schwartz! And, unrelated to this topic, hearing > multiple accounts now of people keeping their SH's long term while other > models come and go has been reinforcing my decision to get one. > > I am coming from the low-trail randonneur bike as my primary interest over > the past 8 or 10 years, where level top tubes are an integral part of the > aesthetic. They are usually tall for their length to keep the head tubes > long enough. The sloping TT Riv's look beautiful to me though, and the SH > is basically perfect from a visual standpoint. > > I never meant for this topic to be about questioning the motives of the > new geometry, I just wanted to hear from those who've ridden both to see if > my preconceptions are indeed based on myths! Sounds like it's more > complicated than that, and is really a personal thing. > > On Sunday, 17 November 2019 06:16:36 UTC-8, j.schwartz wrote: >> >> I don't have much to say on ride characteristics bc I've never ridden an >> AHH, but...as far as aesthetic design goes, I have an interesting take. >> I purchased my first Riv in late 2008. It was the first gen SH , the >> green and gold one. >> I think it was their first "expanded" geo bike. I was really visually >> turned off on upsloping tube but at about half the cost of the AHH (and the >> fact that it had cantis), it made more sense for me to get that one. >> Fast forward to over 10 years later and now my bike design eye has >> totally shifted. I find horizontal top tubes unattractive because I know >> they'd be more uncomfortable for my riding style. >> I still have that SH and have had other Riv's come and go. I also have a >> silver 55 Appaloosa which in many ways is an evolved SH and I think both >> bikes with their 6ยบ (or so) up slope look "correct" and beautiful. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/15d4b3d0-e840-4ba9-858c-ab7d61fd6e9e%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/15d4b3d0-e840-4ba9-858c-ab7d61fd6e9e%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xzXn0ZZ4jH2JO8JFVXviEd5j3-__RD%2BgUW9tBwi8CMFJg%40mail.gmail.com.
