I have the original tan, 2nd generation tan and then the 3rd generation blue. The original nylon was lighter and better for hot days. The later stuff is better for cooler days. None are good for spirited riding. They don't do sweat well. I wear them for easy Sunday social club rides or causal rides to town for coffee, lunch, vet supply pick up for my critters, a haircut, etc. They work GREAT for that. The Riv shorts OTOH are okay for hard riding in warmer weather. I have both the original butternut and the boosucker. The boosucker is the bomb but came and went very quickly.
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