Lack of full extension of the second joint of toes. 

He had scarlet fever at 12 years (untreated strep infection: penicillin 
went to the war) presumably this was one of the outcomes of his bedrest 
duration. 

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 11:18:53 AM UTC-4, Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>
> What are hammer toes?
>

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh 

>
> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 6:30 AM ascpgh <asc...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> I do abhor the direction the Wagner family took when asked to respect his 
>> name on a bike of great utility and they chose dollar signs over his legacy 
>> and what it could mean in contemporary use. 
>>
>> Honus played for the Pittsburgh Pirates. They trained pre-season in Hot 
>> Springs, Arkansas (the town where I grew up) alongside many other pro 
>> teams. He was very taken by the town, the natural hot springs and the 
>> people, returning after the baseball seasons often. 
>>
>> He organized and coached the first basketball team there at the high 
>> school and bought the uniforms himself. What colors? Black and gold, still 
>> the school colors to this day. [image: 
>> AB27CD01-28A1-4B77-8FF4-0794ECB8C609.JPG]
>> A sign from the Baseball Trail in Hot Springs, AR. The white tower to the 
>> right is the old Army-Navy Rehab hospital, where my dad went by train from 
>> Memphis for his West Point physical. Screened out for hammer toes, he went 
>> on to Vanderbilt. 
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 8:15:25 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>>> I had a thought formulating before I saw Grant's response: we can blame 
>>> the estate of Honus Wagner for the preponderance of made-up names and 
>>> anagrams. The thing about names is, most of the time, in the end, the name 
>>> becomes the thing, the thing becomes the name. 
>>>
>>> When auto manufacturers use names from the animal kingdom, they often 
>>> choose ones that evoke speed and sleekness--Mustang, Impala, Cougar, Pinto. 
>>> Okay, pinto is actually a bean. And also a horse with a patched coat, not 
>>> unlike an Appaloosa. It was also a car from the Ford Motor Company known 
>>> for exploding. Here's an idea for a Rivendell bicycle name, an anagram made 
>>> from "Edsel B. Ford."
>>>
>>> My first thought about Platypus was, great name for a bike!. One that 
>>> looks like this:
>>>
>>> [image: platypus bike.jpg]
>>>
>>> But seriously, naming a bicycle "Platypus" is playful and also has 
>>> perhaps an element of thumbing the nose at the bike industry, and marketing 
>>> tenets in general. Back to what I was saying about the thing becoming the 
>>> name and vice versa, there is the perhaps apocryphal story of Picasso's 
>>> reaction to someone pointing out that the portrait he painted of Getrude 
>>> Stein doesn't actually look like Stein. In the first version, Picasso 
>>> replies, "It will." In the second version, he replies, "In a hundred years, 
>>> nobody will care what Gertrude looked like, but they will still be looking 
>>> at my painting."
>>>
>>> Gertrude Stein wrote the poem "Sacred Emily", and it has this somewhat 
>>> famous line (if lines from poetry can any longer be considered famous in 
>>> these times): 
>>>
>>> Rose is a rose is a rose is a rose
>>> Loveliness extreme.
>>> Extra gaiters,
>>> Loveliness extreme.
>>> Sweetest ice-cream.
>>> Pages ages page ages page ages. 
>>>
>>> A Rivendell by any other name smells as sweet.  - *Willy "shaking my 
>>> spear" Shakespeare*
>>>
>>> Oh, and here is the image that comes to mind when I conjure a 
>>> Winthrop-Charlene bike (Stein, coincidentally, bears a passing resemblance 
>>> to Miss Almira Gutch:
>>>
>>> [image: winthrop charlene.gif]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 3:18:18 AM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have been intrigued by platypusses since I was in elementary school. 
>>>> Not yearly, it hasn't been a mind-worm, but I've always felt a little bit 
>>>> closer to them, a little fonder of them and interested in them, than my 
>>>> friends. When I was a teenager and young adult, whenever I came across the 
>>>> name for whatever reason, it was like coming home, instant comfort. 
>>>> Seriously. I know more about them than anybody in the bike business. I 
>>>> know 
>>>> that the Latin name doesn't include any variation of "platypus" because a 
>>>> kind of beetle got it first. They swim with eyes closed, They have one 
>>>> hole 
>>>> for everything and no stomach. They use sonar, have venomous spurs, are 
>>>> NOT 
>>>> endangered, have been around more than 200 million years (experts argue, 
>>>> but nobody thinks this is outrageous). There were early huge ones, three 
>>>> feet long. 
>>>>
>>>> When Europeans started killing and stuffing them in the name of 
>>>> science, they were accused of hoaxing. How could this animal exist? And 
>>>> yet, it has existed 666, 6666667 times as long as Homo sapiens (if you 
>>>> believe we've been here for 300,000 years (formerly 200,000), and you go 
>>>> by 
>>>> the 200 million year duration of the platypus. It's a successful animal. 
>>>> Less changed, in that time, than any other. I don't know what "deserves 
>>>> respect" means...I know the suggestion that something does tends to make 
>>>> me 
>>>> take the opposite stance no matter what it is we're taking about--but 
>>>> think 
>>>> of it's success. It's not just a funny looking animal with a funny name. 
>>>> It 
>>>> is success itself.
>>>>
>>>> Our names are consistently quirky-nutty-dumb-different. A. Homer 
>>>> Hilsen, Sam Hillborne, CLEM SMITH JR,Hunqapillar, Glorius, Wilbury, 
>>>> Atlantis (not too quirky, there), Roadini, Roadeo, Joe Appaloosa 
>>>> ("Appaloosa" sans Joe sounded too mainstream-perfect to me. It was hard to 
>>>> add the Joe, but I like saying we have a Homer, Sam, Joe, Clem...  
>>>>
>>>> Platypus won't be Arnulfo Platypus. At one time I was thining of a 
>>>> gender-fluid name ("A.", Sam, George, CLEM are all that. Twenty-eight 
>>>> percent of the Georges born in the U.S. lack external plumbing.) So it was 
>>>> going to be Leslie or Taylor, but even I have my limits.
>>>>
>>>> It is fantastic that so many people feel so strongly. It's flattering 
>>>> even if it's not intended to be, and if everybody dug it, I'd think 
>>>> something was wrong, and I wouldn't like it anymore.
>>>>
>>>> As I explained to one person privately, in biological taxonomy or 
>>>> whatever it is, you know what I'm talking about--Kingdom holds the most, a 
>>>> phylum next most, and in descending order of 
>>>> capacity.....class-order-family-genus, species. 
>>>> Kingdom: Inanimatalia?
>>>> Phylum: Tangibulis?
>>>> Class: Planet-and-animal friendly..us?
>>>> Order: Two wheelers
>>>> Family: Muscle-powered ones
>>>> Genus: Rivendell
>>>> Species: Name your model
>>>>
>>>> Once the species has changed enough, it can't be in that species 
>>>> anymore. The Pbike comes in the same sizes as the Cheviot, but it's 
>>>> longer, 
>>>> has V-brakes, a different mid-joint, bigger wheels in the 55, a different 
>>>> diagastay connection...and to me, those things didn't just justify a new 
>>>> name, but demanded it. I dig (understand) that Stumpjumpers, Mustangs, and 
>>>> Thunderbirds keep their names even though they change, but we don't copy 
>>>> Specialized or Ford.
>>>>
>>>> I am really, really happy with how this bike rides and fits tires, etc. 
>>>> Will wanted the V-brakes, and I love Will and happen to also love 
>>>> V-brakes. 
>>>> We both knew it would bum out some people, but they're really good brakes. 
>>>> Being good brakes doesn't mean the Silver/559 sidepulls aren't. Will is, 
>>>> in 
>>>> his way, as much or more of a rebel as I am. He's comfortable with moves 
>>>> that he KNOWS will bum people out, as long as he believes he's doing it 
>>>> for 
>>>> the right reason. I wouldn't have been that bold, so I'm glad he was. On 
>>>> the other hand, he kinda wanted Cheviot to stay, but he's cool with 
>>>> Platypus. He knows all the changes.
>>>>
>>>> This taxonomic ideology is...and ideal. We may have violated it in the 
>>>> past, a nd we may do it again, because we're not (or at least I am not) 
>>>> perfect. Hang in there with us for a while. These are tough times. We'll 
>>>> get about a hundred of these. We don't know what the future holds, and 
>>>> don't read anything into that--just look around. I need to name this 
>>>> wonderful bike Platypus. I don't want to look back and wish I had, so I'm 
>>>> doing it now. 
>>>> My logic is only mine, and yours is yours, and they don't have to fight 
>>>> it out.  It's not a right or wrong thing. I don't need total agreement 
>>>> (and 
>>>> wouldn't trust it). I do, really really really like that you care. OK 
>>>> then...where were we? :)    -- Grant
>>>>
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