This is a place to talk about bikes and related matter, not politics, 
religion or social issues . These are the group tenets and it's clear such 
posts that are clearly OT will be removed. I appreciate this greatly and 
that's a big reason why I'm still here. 

  Posting such puts everyone on a no-win position ... a side .... you're 
either a this, or you're a that... and before you know here we go again 
with another chapter of dualing-isms of opinions posing as fact.  

  Myself I consider it a blessing to be here without such discussions 
because they seem to so prevalent in so many other media outlets.   

  

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