Hi, and thanks for all of the helpful replies. Since my posting, I received 
and installed my 12cm Tallux. As I suspected, that didn't help much, even 
with the quill raised to the max mark (which looked a bit funny, too). 
However, rotating the bars from the 12deg grip angle to the recommended 
starting point of 7 deg helped. Also getting confirmation from Will at Riv, 
and some of you that this is expected. Yes, there is still interference, 
but I've realized my aversion was mainly due to second guessing my choices. 
I'm totally acclimated to the riding position now. I've also lowered the 
stem to the minimum possible height (which is still generously tall with 
the short head tube on the 45cm. I agree that it's a wonderful bike which 
practically rides itself. I don't want to trim the bars, as I like the 
multiple hand positions. I may switch to a stem shifter in the future, but 
for now I installed the bar ends I have, as I can just cut down the cables 
later. Yes, that made it rather worse, but I do like them (I should say it, 
as I still don't have a FD). 

No great photos, but I did snap this one of the build as it sits now:



On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 11:53:45 AM UTC-4, BlackBomber wrote:
>
> I'm in the process of building up a Clem H with 55cm Boscos, and a 115mm 
> reach "7" stem. The stem is a placeholder until my 120mm Tallux comes in, 
> but that won't give much more room. Note that a 45cm complete would have 
> come with the shorter 110mm stem. Anyway, it seems like the bars and my 
> knees will be in conflict on some turns. Something I'm familiar with 
> (owning a couple of pre-WWII American bikes). I also have bar end shifters, 
> although I think it would be a problem with thumbies, also. The bars are 
> raised with the grips resting about an inch higher than my seat, and maybe 
> a 10-12 degree rotation back. I'm 5'4" with a 79cm PBH on a 45cm frame. It 
> was a toss up between the 45 and 52, and I felt more comfortable with the 
> idea of a 45 as 52 is just about where I feel comfortable on a road bike, 
> and I wanted more standover. Plus my converted MTB build I'm replacing has 
> the same top tube length as my Clem, and I feel great on that bike.
>
> So my question is, when properly fitted, do these bars interfere with 
> knees in real world riding, or did I pick the wrong size frame?
>

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