I remeasure last night and got 110+30=130.  Thanks

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 10:46 AM 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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>   You can purchase Gilles Berthoud saddles from Rene Herse Cycles, the
> Berthoud dealer in the U.S.
>
>   The widest models most like the B17 are the Mente, the Aubisque, and the
> Vars. The Mente is the economy model without the torx head bolts allowing
> you to change leather tops. The Aubisque has steel rails, and the Vars has
> titanium rails, and both allow one to change the leather tops or take apart
> the saddle to replace parts. Rene Herse now carries the Aubisque.
>
>   I ride these saddles because my sit bones are almost 13cm apart, so even
> if I'm stretched out, a wider saddle feels better, and I like my Albatross
> bars lowered to saddle height. I'm definitely not a fan of the very upright
> riding posture, unless I'm stretching & riding hands free. My sit bones
> rest a bit too close to the edge to ride comfortably on the Aspin.
>
>   I would recommend getting the Aubisque, because it gives you the option
> to replace parts, including the leather top, if you ever need to.
>
>   But first, I would recommend measuring your sit bones to make sure how
> wide a saddle you need. The WTB website has a sit bone "calculator", their
> Fit Right System, which I found very easy to use, and accurate (for me at
> least), which uses the width of your wrist. I would give it a whirl before
> you buy:  https://www.wtb.com/pages/fit-right-system
>
> YMMV,
>
> John
>
>
> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 10:11:45 AM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote:
>>
>> I’ve ridden Brooks forever, I had decided to try narrower than my B68 as
>> Oi rubs my inner thigh and is annoying. So I started reading on my old
>> trusty B17.  Wow, so many models and opinions, now some discontinued.  Then
>> I stumbled onto a few (many) comments and threads on Berthoud saddles.
>> Looking at their page I see the Mente is closest in size to the B17, the
>> rest are narrower.  But they seem to not be available unless from an eBay
>> sellers who sell at a very high price.  I ride upright, not 90 degrees but
>> closer than not.  I did read some comments on the durability of the leather
>> which may have been caused by putting Proofide  on it.  Just wondering if
>> any members who ride upright have used the saddle and how they like it.
>> Not sure if this helps but my sitbones seem to ne a out 90mm apart,
>> +20=110mm.
>>
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