I think that if I had to carry around 10 lb to keep my bike safe, I'd
invest in a nice-riding beater to use for such errands.

I've been lucky that I've always been able to store my bikes in my office;
in fact, one employer gave me a second, empty office to use as a storage +
changing room, and another had shelves and clothes rack installed for me.
But I've commuted on many beaters, tho I did use a custom Riv for the last
few years, and a custom is still my errand -- groceries and such -- ride.
Presently, I wheel my bike into the stores, and either wheel it up and down
the aisles as my shopping cart, or in smaller stores (True Value), park it
inside near the door. I use my car for trips to box stores.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 12:01 PM Matthew Williams <
matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Iā€™m considering two options for a lock-and-chain setup, to be used for
> locking my bike when I'm at the hardware store, getting groceries, and such.
>
> Option 1: Pewag *7mm* Square Security Chain
> <https://www.westechrigging.com/pewag-security-chain-932.html>: 6ā€™
> length: *4.5 lbs*
>
> Option 2:  Pewag *10mm* Square Security Chain
> <https://www.westechrigging.com/pewag-security-chain-038.html>: 6ā€™
> length: *9.9 lbs*
>
> The trade-off is weight vs. security. I recently tried a 12mm chain
> <https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/VkJIxFvq_x4/m/U7ozcKVECAAJ>
> but it was nearly 15 pounds! Two Kryptonite U-locks weigh 8.9 lbs.
> Thoughts, suggestions, experience? How have other folks have resolved the
> security-to-weight equation?
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 8:44:02 AM UTC-7 Adam Leibow wrote:
>
>> I have several locks including the Bordo I bought from Riv. The Bordo is
>> great since it's more substantial than any cable lock (in that bolt cutters
>> won't be enough to get through it). I use it as the sole lock only in
>> "light" lockup situations (areas I feel safe in and for short periods of
>> time). I live in SF, so usually my lockup situations are "heavy" such that
>> the Bordo is supplementary to at least one U-lock and I have to strongly
>> consider whether I can lock up the bike at all. In summary, it's a great
>> lock whether it's the only lock needed or one of several needed.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 9:04:50 AM UTC-7, Vincent Tamer wrote:
>>
>>> So I notice the Abus Bordo came back in stock on the Riv site. Does
>>> anyone have any experience with this lock?
>>>
>>> I've been considering it because I wanted a quick lock up lock for my
>>> Clem Smith opposed to my ulock and cable.  I also wanted to support Riv. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you all use in the various conditions that you lock your bike up
>>> in?
>>>
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