So what I am getting from this discussion is, dedicated ebike, get one with Bosch drive. Converting a Rivendell, one of the Bafang mid-drive systems offers pedal assist with enough power to be useful on hills, etc., is not overly complicated, and has good technical support, appears to be a going concern. Joe, better on a Plat or a Clem L?
On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 10:39:20 PM UTC-4, Robert Blunt wrote: > > Robert is right. Bike designers have to design the frame around the Bosch > drive system shape so it is never offered as a kit. Most people who are > interested in mid-drive systems (systems which help you pedal from the > bottom bracket area) as kits, use the bafang mid-drive motors which are > available in a variety of power levels. Hub motors are a different animal > and aren't as effective in climbing plus changing the tire on a heavy wheel > hub motor can be a pain. But they are generally cheaper and pretty reliable. > Best, > Rob > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 8:42 PM Robert Tilley <rlti...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> I believe you need a frame that accepts the Bosch drive since the bottom >> bracket needs to be able to fit it. So retrofitting a Bosch drive to a >> standard frame isn't possible as far as I know. >> >> Robert Tilley >> San Diego, CA >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device >> *From:* absolut...@gmail.com <javascript:> >> *Sent:* August 7, 2020 5:28 PM >> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >> *Reply-to:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Electrified Rivendells >> >> Are Bosch systems even available as kits, or do you need to buy a bicycle >> with the Bosch system? >> >> If you can't get the various Bosch systems, what are folks finding >> reliable and moderately easy to install for pedal assist with some torque >> for hills (Asking for a friend. Seriously. Not that I am against them per >> se, but just don't need one right now.) >> >> On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 5:08:14 PM UTC-4, Robert Tilley wrote: >>> >>> I agree that a purpose built e-bike would better suited for your use. >>> Xtracycle has some nice cargo e-bikes and Surly now offers an electric Big >>> Dummy. I own a Tern S00 and I love it. It rides well even though it's made >>> to fit a wide range of people (one size fits most) and it hauls almost >>> everything I would care to carry on a bike. I do like the Xtracycle cargo >>> platform better but the Tern takes up a lot less space in the garage. >>> >>> I also really like the Bosch system. It does feel like riding a normal >>> bike but with Lance legs instead of my puny legs. I have over 2,000 miles >>> on mine since I picked it up late last year and have had no issues at all. >>> >>> Robert Tilley >>> San Diego, CA >>> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device >>> *From:* bert...@gmail.com >>> *Sent:* August 7, 2020 12:35 PM >>> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >>> *Reply-to:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Electrified Rivendells >>> >>> Oh, and to those who have the relevant experience: taking into account >>> nighttime riding, large and heavy loads (I mean Costco shopping for 1, >>> maybe 2), and rainy day riding: what is better, an electrified >>> Clem/Cheviot/Joe/whathave you, or a real electric moped? >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 1:20 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> This thread, along with the consistently very positive reviews of Clems >>>> and Cheviots and other "cruiser"-type Rivendells makes me think about >>>> buying one of these long-stayed, upright Rivs with an electric motor of >>>> some sort, particularly as I progress ineluctably toward senility; perhaps >>>> a elegant Copenhagen wheel? >>>> >>>> I myself put fewer than 200 miles on my old car between a mid-January >>>> 2020 oil change and mid June -- this is not virtue, this is simply a very >>>> quiet life and several bicycles and living near things; my daughter, >>>> Covid-ed home from college in mid-March, put another ~1,200 miles on it >>>> between 1st May and mid-July. >>>> >>>> But for those days when it is windy, or rainy (I have Sou'wester hat >>>> and rain cape and spats), or when I want to carry big loads, an electric >>>> bike may be a real option, and if this bike retains something of the >>>> "feel" >>>> of the best Rivs I've already owned, then all the better. >>>> >>>> With that windup, will you-plural post photos and descriptions of your >>>> electrified Rivendells? And tell us how much they can carry, and how you >>>> carry it? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:50 PM Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can verify a battery fits perfectly on a Cheviot. The only drawback >>>>> for me was the caliper brakes, but that was my fault for putting a >>>>> monster >>>>> mid-drive kit on it..the damn thing was as fast as a small motorcycle! >>>>> Your >>>>> kit should be fine on one. >>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/9yY2z12rdpbrShbT9 >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Patrick Moore >>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgvkWwHdgJ_B_fzk6TnG7G3EyuCiP_oAO%2BAf5P3s6QcKBQ%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgvkWwHdgJ_B_fzk6TnG7G3EyuCiP_oAO%2BAf5P3s6QcKBQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/359c0e43-53d2-4bc8-a299-a4d24f1f18e1o%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/359c0e43-53d2-4bc8-a299-a4d24f1f18e1o%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/dsjci15tbotq2d9hp6o5ense.1596847312652%40gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/dsjci15tbotq2d9hp6o5ense.1596847312652%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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