Thanks for the responses guys.

I agree that the longer reach measurement (relative to the bb) Defintely
helps, which this bike does have.  I have ridden sweepier bars on bikes
designed around drops and always felt weird to me.  Trail on this bike is
around 65-69mm depending on tire size.   I suppose it does differ a little
from a riv in chainstay length at 423mm with the sliding drop outs slammed
forward but does have a 20mm to play with (423-443).  I’d assume that this
could alter handling slightly too weight distribution wise.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 8:26 PM Paul Clifton <[email protected]> wrote:

> I disagree with Patrick, and without having read the articles, I think I
> agree with Garth. It really depends on the frame. Swept back bars work
> better on some frames than others. A long top tube is helpful. I climb
> stand with Albatross and Bosco bars with my body up in between the grips
> without sliding my hands forward very much. A longer top tube makes that
> position, relative to the pedals, more similar to a bike with drop or
> straight bars, where the grips are more in line with or in front of the
> head tube. Bar width also matters some.
>
> Paul in NW Arkansas
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