Ah, I was wonndering about that. Any idea how long those extensions
generally are? I'm wondering if I can get away without a riser stem.

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 03:13, Dave Johnston <jdi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have found bikeinsights to be wrong on both Stack and Reach for
> Rivendell bikes. They don't take into account the head-tube extension built
> into Riv's lugs.
>
> -Dave J
> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 8:53:13 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Whoops, sorry about that! Here are the frames you selected:
>> White outline: 57 Appaloosa (2020)
>> Black outline: 55 Atlantis (2019)
>>
>>
>> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5e308654dcfe4e001737cc7d%2C5e1faf637f17da00170c6e27
>> <https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5e308654dcfe4e001737cc7d,5e1faf637f17da00170c6e27>
>>
>> Welcome to the list, Johnny!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Den John <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Matthew, that is incredibly helpful.
>>
>> Johnny
>>
>> On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 23:52, Matthew Williams <matthewwil...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Johnny,
>>>
>>> Here's a site for comparing frames:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5b8578f548f3a30004789b07,5ad1288a9127aa0014fa1d9c&builds=,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:55 AM, Den John <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> My name is Johnny. I live in Belgium and I'm Riv Curious. I post from
>>> time to time on the iBOB group.
>>>
>>> I've been obsessed with the idea of owning a Riv for a while. I'm
>>> particularly interested in the Atlantis and Appaloosa.
>>>
>>> Could anyone tell me the stack & reach numbers for a 55cm Atlantis and a
>>> 57cm Appaloosa (current models)? Riv doesn't list S&R on their geometry
>>> chart.
>>>
>>> An image of the measurements I need is attached.
>>>
>>> I'd like to use wide drop bars, so stack & reach are quite important to
>>> know.
>>>
>>> If anyone has any comments on the current long chainstay versions of
>>> these bikes, I'd also be interested to hear. This seems to be the most
>>> distinctive aspect, and the only way to get something like this in the EU
>>> would be to go custom. I do have a bakfiets,
>>> and the long wheelbase on that makes for a very nice ride.
>>>
>>> I suppose now is not really the best time to think about importing a
>>> bike from the US to Europe, but never mind :-)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Johnny in Belgium
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