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On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:40:59 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I responded to the original post which referred to the Crust as the low 
> trail bike. I didnt watch the video, it doesn't interest me and I wasn't 
> responding to its content. 
>
>
> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:
>
>> I get a big kick out of all the people with commentary on a video that 
>> they did not watch. As Tom pointed out, the Sam Hillborne is the "low 
>> trail" bike in this comparison - you need to watch the video to know what 
>> is in it. Note that I have one Crust (Scapegoat) and 12 Rivendells.
>>
>> One word on guitarists: Hendrix.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 8:09:04 AM UTC-5 Tom M wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, the particular Crust Russ is reviewing isn't low trail — he said 
>>> it's 76 or 75 mm. I don't have a particular dog in the fight, and I enjoyed 
>>> the video and don't consider it click-bait. As Russ said, he gets asked 
>>> this type of question all the time, so why not do a video?
>>>
>>> And re: guitarists—thanks to Philip for the Rory Gallagher link. I'd 
>>> never heard of him but will now check him out.
>>>
>>> Tom Milani
>>> Alexandria, VA USA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 2:18:44 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Which - to be clear - is my response to the premise of the thread which 
>>>> is the premise of the Path Less Pedaled thing. I'm not objecting to the 
>>>> thread being a thread. 
>>>>
>>>> Joe "let me say this about that" Bernard
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 10:02:16 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think a Riv vs. anything low trail really counts as a 
>>>>> comparison, it's two very different approaches to what is considered the 
>>>>> "right" way for a bicycle to handle. But my bias is extreme, I bought a 
>>>>> Crust Lightning Bolt (disc) and hoo boy did I learn the expensive way 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> I do *not *like low trail. Rivs ride the way I need my bikes to ride. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 8:03:14 PM UTC-8 Ben Miller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The "Path Less Pedaled" YouTube channel just released a video with 
>>>>>> the provocative title "Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better? 
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hM8ZSBRl0>" 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The actual video is a lot less provocative. Basically Russ comparing 
>>>>>> his Hillborne to his Bombora. Still interesting, but maybe less so than 
>>>>>> it 
>>>>>> could be? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I imagine Crust and Rivendell must get compared to each other a lot. 
>>>>>> I know that their the only two bike frames I currently own and ride, so 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> do it more or less constantly. I imagine that this is partly due to Matt 
>>>>>> & 
>>>>>> Bene purposefully designing the Romanceur frame with the Rivendell 
>>>>>> aesthetic in mind. I think Russ sort of touches on that, when comparing 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> Bombora to the All City and the Hillborne to the Richtey. He seems to be 
>>>>>> saying, the Ritchey/All City aesthetic lacked something the Riv/Crust 
>>>>>> bikes 
>>>>>> had. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyways, I think of Crust as threadless, disc, and low trail compared 
>>>>>> to Rivendell with rim brakes, quill stems, and high trail. Like most 
>>>>>> thing's not hard and fast (see: Canti Lightning Bolt). What's your hot 
>>>>>> take 
>>>>>> on the two?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think both bike companies are really doing some amazing and 
>>>>>> important stuff for the bike industry. What I think would be really 
>>>>>> interesting collaboration between Grant and Matt. Maybe something along 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> lines of the Soma San Marcos, but both providing inputs. That'd be 
>>>>>> really 
>>>>>> cool!
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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