That could be the problem, or the chain is indeed too old. I think you 
would need to ride it yourself to sort it out, but any indexing not 
specifically designed for its groups chainrings is always a struggle. She'd 
probably be better off with a friction thumbshifter or bar-end (depending 
on bars) so she has all the control of the shift. 


On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 10:50:36 AM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote:

> I've not ridden it, just shifted it in the bike stand, where it seems to 
> shift fine. On the bike stand it is obviously not under load, which is an 
> important point since it seems the chain is always getting stuck when she 
> is shifting under power. 
>
> The shifter is a Microshift R9, which is indexed. But the downshift simply 
> releases all the tension, (returning the FD to the lowest possible 
> position). I guess maybe that could be an issue since maybe the abrupt 
> action is too violent compared to a smooth human actuated downshift?
>
> On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 10:36:00 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Have you ridden the GF's bike to see what's going on with the shifting? 
>> Is she using a friction shifter or index? If index, it may not work with 
>> what crank. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 10:13:18 AM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote:
>>
>>> I have a converted Sugino hi/low a la Grant-style with a bash-guard in 
>>> place of the outer ring. I briefly had it on one of my bikes, where it 
>>> worked fine, but just recently took it off and replaced my GF's triple with 
>>> it. On that drive train, it will frequently get stuck between the hi-low 
>>> chainrings while she is downshifting. The chainrings are very new. The 
>>> chain on GF's bike isn't new, but checking for stretch with a chain tool, 
>>> it isn't overly worn. I think (?) i've installed the chainrings correctly, 
>>> but maybe not?? Any thoughts, as I'm confused by what's happening. My first 
>>> thought is just to replace the chain (even though it appears to have some 
>>> life left). Oh and on the original bike (mine) it was a 9 spd with a 10 spd 
>>> chain. This bike (GF's) is a 9 spd with a 9 spd chain. Curious that it 
>>> would work better with a 10 spd chain?
>>>
>>> On a related note, Patrick Moore said: "IME, the bigger hassle is 
>>> getting the best lateral angle for the cage." Totally agree. Any 
>>> shortcuts/tips to this?
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 1:57:36 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had to cut off the stop only because I perversely insisted on using 
>>>> an 8 or 9 speed-era road front der with a much later and 2-piece mountain 
>>>> bike triple.
>>>>
>>>> Without the stop, the derailleur will kick the chain over the bash 
>>>> guard and off the crank entirely; the reason is that the derailleur has to 
>>>> be positioned high enough (*just* high enough) for the outer cage to 
>>>> clear the bash guard, otherwise it won't move outward enough to shift the 
>>>> chain onto the "middle" ring. Note that my bash guard is the equivalent of 
>>>> a 44 t ring, IIRC; ie, not much bigger that the 42 now in "middle" 
>>>> position.
>>>>
>>>> The matching curves is purely fortuitous.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:31 PM Matthew P <matthewpe...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Patrick that looks great. 
>>>>> Nice coupling of the two arcs of the toothless outer ring/guard and 
>>>>> the fd cage.
>>>>> Did you really have to hack off the stop, as in, backing out or 
>>>>> removing altogether the limit screw wasn't enough? I believe you 
>>>>> regardless.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm slowly grasping a few things:
>>>>> 1. the fd has to clear the toothless outer ring, which probably places 
>>>>> it a little high with respect to the outermost ring that has teeth
>>>>>       1.a. when people say "mount the FD high" is it high with respect 
>>>>> to that ring (middle in the triple) or high wrt the toothless outer (aka 
>>>>> really high for the middle ring)?
>>>>> 2. I bet that guard/toothless-ring also works great as a chain stop. 
>>>>> pretty hard to throw the chain off your biggest ring when you have one of 
>>>>> those, no?
>>>>> But if the chain never comes off I don't get to do my current favorite 
>>>>> bike trick: put the chain back on just using the fd (and pedalling, of 
>>>>> course)
>>>>>
>>>>> - Matthew 
>>>>> "I passed on the bash guard triple but am liking them more" and 
>>>>> "i can always throw it off the inner ring for fun" and 
>>>>> "but I can barely get the chain there in the first place right now" and
>>>>> "would like to see this ugly-functional fd" and
>>>>> "doesn't yet comprehend long (road?) vs. short (mtb?) fd's"
>>>>> P
>>>>
>>>>

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