I'm just talking about derailers, mate. Or derailleurs, your choice. 

On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 12:59:09 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oh man, when you said "mount it high" I tried to, but sort of lost 
> interest half way through the project & called out for pizza.
>
>
>
> I'll be here all week, try the veal.
>
> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 2:55:35 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> When people (me) say "mount it high", it means high over the small pant 
>> guard which would be a bigger chainring if that triple crank still had that 
>> ring. But it seems to matter a lot which fd you use because they don't all 
>> need that trick. Here's a pic I stole from Leah's (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) 
>> Instagram after remembering she uses the Silver 24-38-guard crank setup on 
>> her (extremely rad) Platy. I don't know what derailer that is but it's 
>> sitting right over the guard with barely a gap and still clears the 
>> chainstay. Buy whatever is on her bike! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 11:31:20 AM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick that looks great. 
>>> Nice coupling of the two arcs of the toothless outer ring/guard and the 
>>> fd cage.
>>> Did you really have to hack off the stop, as in, backing out or removing 
>>> altogether the limit screw wasn't enough? I believe you regardless.
>>>
>>> I'm slowly grasping a few things:
>>> 1. the fd has to clear the toothless outer ring, which probably places 
>>> it a little high with respect to the outermost ring that has teeth
>>>       1.a. when people say "mount the FD high" is it high with respect 
>>> to that ring (middle in the triple) or high wrt the toothless outer (aka 
>>> really high for the middle ring)?
>>> 2. I bet that guard/toothless-ring also works great as a chain stop. 
>>> pretty hard to throw the chain off your biggest ring when you have one of 
>>> those, no?
>>> But if the chain never comes off I don't get to do my current favorite 
>>> bike trick: put the chain back on just using the fd (and pedalling, of 
>>> course)
>>>
>>> - Matthew 
>>> "I passed on the bash guard triple but am liking them more" and 
>>> "i can always throw it off the inner ring for fun" and 
>>> "but I can barely get the chain there in the first place right now" and
>>> "would like to see this ugly-functional fd" and
>>> "doesn't yet comprehend long (road?) vs. short (mtb?) fd's"
>>> P
>>> in San Diego / Kumeyaay Land
>>> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 1:54:22 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, or as Patrick mentioned you can use any old (and cheap) Shimano 
>>>> mtb triple. The 24-38 Silver cranks are a triple with the big ring 
>>>> replaced 
>>>> by a smaller pant guard; if you mount the derailer in its normal position 
>>>> the cage contours will hit the middle and granny rings in the right spot. 
>>>> The only "problem" is the big gap over the pant guard looks a little 
>>>> funky. 
>>>>
>>>> Joe "funky is good" Bernard
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 9:01:43 AM UTC-7 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had the same question about the front derailleur and the silver 
>>>>> low-high 38-24 crank.  It's my first build with a FD.  The gist is to get 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> road double and mess around until it works?  I have no intention of 
>>>>> spending $80 if a cheap one will work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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