I went 2cm longer when I switched to Choco bars.  
On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 2:37:48 AM UTC-4 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Maybe whatbars.com can help you make the choice? Noodles and Billie are 
> in their database, but you'll have to pick a stand in for your Wavie bars 
> (e.g., Surly Open, On One Mary). I use the comparisons to picture where my 
> hand position would be on the new bars relative to where I typically place 
> them on old bar, then I "shift" the bars mentally so the hand positions 
> (new vs old) would be roughly the same distance from saddle-to-handlebar. 
> That "shift" would be the difference between the old and the new stem.
>
> [I went from a Billie to a Noodle on my Homer, so I dropped down from 
> 110mm to 60mm, or about 50mm.]
>
> --Ed C.
> On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 5:49:11 AM UTC-7 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Greetings
>> I'm looking to try a Billie Bar on my App and unsure on stem length. I 
>> think I'm leaning towards a slightly more aero position and would like to 
>> have the grip/brake area not too far back.  I'd like to set them up so that 
>> position is comfortable and upright but not an issue for steering or knee 
>> hitting.  The issue is, I'm not all that long and general ride shorter 
>> stems .
>> * 9cm for Noodles on my S.H.
>> * 8cm for flat waive-like bars on my App currently 
>>
>> I don't think the "3rd" position in the rounded forward part of the bar 
>> is something I would use all that often but definitely the area in front of 
>> the levers appeals to me as a primary riding position that sort-of mimics 
>> riding on the hoods of a drop bar.
>>
>> Does anyone have suggestions on how long of a stem works best with these 
>> bars?   My gut is saying 11cm but I'm concerned about purchasing such a 
>> long stem and it feel way too out there.  It's a 55cm App with a roughly 
>> 60cm effective top tube length 
>>
>> Also if anyone has a Bille Bar they would like to move on, please let me 
>> know
>> Thank you
>> JS
>>
>

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