I was a bit hasty there and neglected the other questions (well, the ones I can answer anyway): No change to the chainstay length nor the tire clearance, just based on comparison of new and old geometry tables. I'm not sure on other changes; Grant said this batch has slightly longer "bellies" to the butted tubes which make the frame a touch lighter and livelier, but that's as compared to the last batch rather than the first batch, so not necessarily relevant.
On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:42 AM Jason Fuller <[email protected]> wrote: > Keith, > > The current 57 Appa has a 10mm longer top tube than the old 58 Appa did! > Current 57 is a 625 effective TT, whereas the old 58 was 615. Definitely > sounds like good news for you! > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:35 AM iamkeith <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't have time to study nuances and geometries and subtle, running >> design changes like I used to, but I still sort of regret not getting a >> 58cm double-top-tuber from the first batch. (When they were announced and >> went on sale, I was precluded by the fact that I was still waiting on a >> Clem from the first run, which ended up being almost - but not quite - >> ideal for me, so I eventually got rid of it.) >> >> Can anyone provide a clear, accurate summary of how the details of this >> model have changed? >> >> I know the seat tube sizes/designations are 1cm less, but did the top >> tubes or effective front-centers stay the same, or get shorter or, better >> yet, get LONGER? >> >> I know the fork blades got stiffer/thicker after the first run. Any >> other changes since. >> >> Has tire clearance improved? >> >> Have chainstays gotten longer or shorter, etc? >> >> Thanks for any geeky analysis or datapoints. >> >> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 11:01:43 AM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote: >> >>> Now that the new Joe Appa's are hitting shelves (everywhere but at >>> Rivendell, as is becoming the norm!) I reckon it's time for a central place >>> to chat about them, a la the Platy thread! >>> >>> Crust has their inventory live for purchase at $1650: >>> >>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/frames/products/rivendell-joe-appaloosa >>> >>> I will be abstaining because there is no line of reason that could >>> possibly justify my buying one, but I look forward to living vicariously >>> through others! >>> >>> [image: DSC07418-2_1800x1800.jpg] >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/e9cFQqaLcas/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2311e4d2-adc9-481d-ba50-08007a48ca25n%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2311e4d2-adc9-481d-ba50-08007a48ca25n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGBpHnfnr2XjW6Oog5g6LPgtdUW9yf1aw0NfEo%3D8WGpEKu-kTg%40mail.gmail.com.
