Since we're on the RBW owners forum, and since everyone might not be aware, 
Riv recently started carrying a 2nd nalgene-size cage.  There is now a big 
"Jim" in addition to an even larger Twofish.  I just got a Jim last week.  
Haven't had a chance to try it yet, but can report on durability / 
retention once I do.  It's well-made, so I can't forsee any issues:

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/accessories?page=4

I like carrying the weight as low and centered as possible.

Also, i still like and use a couple of older Blackburn cages for 2-Liter 
dIsposable water bottles, from before all the new big bottle and cargo 
cages became available.  They were designed by WTB or, presumably, Charlie 
Cunningham.  Since few bikes had triple bosses at the time, they went 
unnoticed and can be found on ebay and the like fairly regularly:

https://www.wtb.com/blogs/wtb/12046329-throwback-thursdays-1993-wtb-blackburn-bomber

I think they are, or have, reintroduced something similar.




On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 8:44:52 AM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:

> I keep it more traditional with the 3rd bottle cage under the down tube. I 
> drink and sweat a lot and go through a 21oz bottle every 45 min or so when 
> putting in an effort. 
>
> Lots of rave reviews of the VO Mojave and larger Nalgene style bottles and 
> I should probably consider getting myself one sometime. Another traditional 
> looking option is the Widefoot LiterCage for the big bottles. Soma now 
> offers huge water bottles that fit in traditional cages. They are very long.
>
> Re: cold water on a hot day that's not a concern with the level of effort 
> or amount of water I'm drinking. All I've heard is it takes more effort for 
> your body to digest it because it has to warm it up. Maybe that's a concern 
> with athletes but not me. I'd say go for it, drink the cold stuff!
>
> Kainalu, love the WuTang reference. 
>
> Pat in DC
> [image: 20210209_121623-01.jpeg]
>
> On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 9:24:30 PM UTC-5 exliontamer wrote:
>
>> Hey Doug. I'm in the humid south as well and will vouch for the 
>> Hydroflask bottles being great for the heat and humidity. They don't sweat 
>> so you can throw them in a bag with your phone/stuff without worrying about 
>> moisture. If cold, room temp, or hot water is your thing it will keep it 
>> that temperature accordingly. That thing that Bicycle Belle has looks 
>> rad/perfect for that use.
>> As far as handlebar bags go, I use them on my Albatross bars all of the 
>> time. I have an old Riv bag made by Duluth(the Hobo Bag I think) and a 
>> small Sackville one with velcro. Both work great but the Duluth bag is more 
>> accessible during a ride. From my experience if the attachment points 
>> aren't stiff and/or the zipper is flimsy it can be hard to unzip while in 
>> motion. The Gilles Berthoud bags that open towards the rider are definitely 
>> the best in this regard but the hardware, mounting, and cost can be 
>> outlandish. Hope that helps.
>> On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 7:42:29 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> Doug, there are a lot of nice handlebar bags out there with different 
>>> features. For big bottles I like my Oveja Negra the best. For subtle, 
>>> understated classiness I like my Cycle Cats products. I don’t thing Greg 
>>> Newland is making bags for sale right now. Now that I have these, no one in 
>>> my household wants anything else. 
>>>
>>> On Jun 6, 2021, at 16:24, Doug H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah,
>>>
>>> It's hot and humid here in the sticky south so I go through lots of 
>>> water too. I like the handlebar bag/pouch idea and may look at one of those.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 4:30:15 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [image: 37946C49-EA8C-4484-828D-EBC0F6DCF35B.jpeg]
>>>> Hi Doug!
>>>>
>>>> I cannot live without 32-40 oz of water on my rides in this parched 
>>>> desert, but I don’t like bottle cages and I don’t like bringing multiple 
>>>> bottles. I get around this by using a Randi Jo Bartender Plus bag. I can 
>>>> bring my Hydroflask, either the 32 oz or the 40 fits fine, and I don’t 
>>>> bring a second bottle. Shown is the 40 oz with the straw lid. I can flip 
>>>> it 
>>>> up and sip from it without even taking the bottle out of the bag. Slick!
>>>> On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 12:33:39 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I use one on all my bikes plus my family’s bikes, we’re running:
>>>>> Albatross, Simworks Fun3, Straight MTB bar, Soma dream bar...and a 
>>>>> variety if stem lengths from 35-110mm. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 6, 2021, at 11:31, Doug H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Lucky,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you got me thinking about bottles and cages but I wanted to start 
>>>>> a thread to get opinions. Thanks for the topic! Do you use a handlebar 
>>>>> bottle bag on upright type bars, Albatross etc.?
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 2:28:50 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I maybe brought this up with my search for a Mojave, but I *really* 
>>>>>> like handlebar bottle/snack bags. If you’re carrying a lot of water, the 
>>>>>> Mojave type cages give you more capacity, of course, with lots of 
>>>>>> bikepacking gear. What I liked about the Mojave for my kid’s bike was 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> it won’t get swiped in the bike rack at school like a handlebar bag 
>>>>>> might. 
>>>>>> But I like the flexibility of the handlebar bag for things other than 
>>>>>> water 
>>>>>> bottles too. I have bags from Cycle Cats, Oveja Negra, and Greg Newland. 
>>>>>> Check the size bottle though, because this is how I found out that 
>>>>>> the cheap Costco bottle is too skinny for a proper fit in a Mojave. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2021, at 11:20, Doug H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've always used standard size bottle cages and uninsulated bottles. 
>>>>>> But, I'm intrigued by the Velo Orange Mojave large cage that holds their 
>>>>>> 32 
>>>>>> oz Nalgene and 32 oz insulated Klean Kanteen bottles. On long rides I 
>>>>>> will 
>>>>>> take two 20 oz bottles but usually have some left so one 32 might do for 
>>>>>> longish rides (30 miles or so). I'm looking for others' bottle setups 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> opinions.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>
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