Michael

Your contact with Tom is similar to mine.  I called him about bent
rails on one of my saddles. After about a 45 min delightful
conversation, he said just send the saddle back and he would replace
it.  I made a mental note at the time that this is a guy I would like
to meet and possibly ride with.  His death hit me hard.  We are about
the same age and although it sounds like he was a much stronger rider
than I am, I keep pushing myself to go faster and climb higher.  This
is the danger of the older rider, but it is hard to back off

Bruce

On Apr 27, 5:24 pm, MichaelH <[email protected]> wrote:
> Steve, your experience is not unusual.  For the past 13 years I have
> been a chaplain at a major medical center and have witnessed many,
> many crises situations.  Unlike what you might see on TV the success
> rate for CPR is very low.  Outside of a hospital, the survival rate,
> long term, is about 2%.  Inside a hospital it rises to about 17%, but
> in the long term about 4% return to their previous lifestyle.  Our
> grief can lead us to feel people have acted callously, and sometimes
> this may be true.  But unless you have some professional training your
> chances of changing the outcome are very low.  Of course that doesn't
> stop us from grieving.   I own a pair of Toms's saddles, and had the
> opportunity to chat with him on the phone.  We are left with a sense
> of helplessness, that we cannot change. I feel stunned.  My prayers go
> out to his family and friends.
>
> Michael
>
> On Apr 27, 5:57 pm, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 16:09 -0500, Shaun Meehan wrote:
> > > I was on an organized charity ride where a rider went down in front of
> > > us right out of the gate, on a fairly short but steep climb. Our
> > > initial reaction was to stop and try to help, so we stopped
> > > immediately. However some ride officials that arrived on the scene at
> > > the same time we did, just as immediately told us to keep moving. This
> > > incident was in a relatively populated and accessible area, but even
> > > so, we found out later that the guy didn't make it. He'd had a massive
> > > heart attack. So it's possible that Tom may not have made it even if
> > > professional help were able to get to him sooner.
>
> > Some years ago I was on a club ride where I was riding along with an ER
> > nurse and her friend.  We stopped at a corner to oil her chain (the
> > squeaking every time she shifted was driving me nuts) and in the minute
> > or two we were stopped this guy passed us.  We continued down the road,
> > up a series of moderately steep rollers and at the top of the last rise
> > saw the guy down on the road, laying on top of his bike.  
>
> > He couldn't have been down more than 2 minutes before she was giving him
> > CPR.  I called 911 and walked up to the to of the last rise to stop
> > traffic, and as I got there a woman who lived in the housing area at the
> > top of the hill came out and asked what was going on.  She called her
> > brother in law, who was visiting.  He was an ER doc and had his full kit
> > with him.  By around 4 min after we saw him, the ER doc was working on
> > him.  Another 2 min later the EMTs arrived and took over.
>
> > We learned he'd had a heart attack, and according to the ER doc it was
> > not surprising: first nice day of spring, and right after that series of
> > tough rollers, the toughest hills in the area.  Happens all the time on
> > a day like that, he said.
>
> > We learned later he didn't make it.  
>
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