One of the many shifter-configurations I use and like is stem shifters. Two of my Rivendells have stem shifters. On a bike with stem shifters and drop bars, it's possible to hit the shifter with my knees when climbing out of the saddle. The steeper the climb the more forward my body is relative to the bike when climbing out of the saddle. With a standard rear derailer, if I'm climbing that very steep hill in a very low gear, the right side shifter is pulled all the way back, the MOST likely position for me to bump it with my knee, and that means an UPSHIFT, which sucks when climbing. With Rapid Rise a low gear means both shifters all the way forward, so it's the least likely place for me to bump it, and even if I did, it would downshift a bit. So I use a Rapid Rise Rear Der on both of those Rivendells
Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 11:10:11 AM UTC-7 Jim M. wrote: > The main advantage I find with Rapid Rise is that it shifts to a lower > gear much more easily when you're pedaling uphill, which I've found more > useful on steep mountain bike routes than with road biking. I've had an RR > derailleur on one bike and standard on another and in my experience I never > had a problem going back and forth. I echo Bill's comment that shifting is > pretty simple on a bike whichever direction you're going. > > jim m > walnut creek > > On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 10:54:20 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> Sorry, low-normal. RapidRise. That thing. >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 10:43:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >>> I read Question 1 as info about high-normal derailers in general, not >>> info on the one Grant is working on. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:53:02 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>> >>>> Sam Perez asked three questions, but has only received answers to the >>>> third of the three. I'll attempt to answer all three: >>>> >>>> 1. Why is there so little info on rapid rise RD? >>>> >>>> I think there is too much. Grant is genuinely excited about the >>>> project and I think he can't help but share a little. If it were me I'd >>>> keep silent on it until it exists to buy. It may never happen, so pushing >>>> info and then killing it will be a bummer. Also, so many people are >>>> willing to bellyache about Rapid Rise, why invite all the bellyachers to >>>> badmouth a part that doesn't exist yet? >>>> >>>> 2. why is it so polarizing? >>>> >>>> I don't know for sure, but I have a ton of ideas, too long a list to >>>> get into. It is confusing to me how popular it is to badmouth the Rapid >>>> Rise RD. I think it's the contrarian position now to say you like Rapid >>>> Rise. >>>> >>>> 3. Any experience thoughts insights? >>>> >>>> Lots of experience, lots of thoughts. Up to you if they qualify as >>>> insights. I bought up a bunch of M760 rear derailers when they were going >>>> out of production. That RD is on 4 of my 18 builds, and I have no trouble >>>> remembering how to shift any of my bikes. Maybe it's because I'm a >>>> mechanic that I understand how things work. Maybe it's because I have a >>>> lot of bikes and use them all a lot that I can remember how to use each of >>>> them, despite their differences. Maybe it's because each of my builds is >>>> different and because I've really carefully executed each build that each >>>> bike for me has a "profile" that I have no problem recalling. I imagine a >>>> lot of people prefer to use their bike without much thought. For some >>>> people, a great compliment for a bicycle is that it 'disappears'. For >>>> others, it's something like "I don't want to be bothered remembering that >>>> backwards shifting. I just want to ride my bike" >>>> >>>> I think shifting gears on a bicycle is dead-simple no matter what you >>>> use. I think getting wrapped around the axle between different shifting >>>> approaches is kind of crazy. It's like handwringing about tying your >>>> shoes, because slip-ons are so much simpler. It's all simple. Use what >>>> you want to use and enjoy your ride! >>>> >>>> Bill Lindsay >>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 10:08:30 PM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey guys, >>>>> Why is there so little info on rapid rise RD and why is it so >>>>> polarizing. Sources include bike snob grants blog and random internet >>>>> sources. Takeaways were finicky and needing frequent adjustment but also >>>>> great concept and easy down shifting. Any experience thoughts insights? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e5d45ddf-a780-4e52-9bb2-fda9390b3ebfn%40googlegroups.com.
