@Tim... I also have a 93 pbh with a 84cm saddle height. I decided that the 63cm Roadeo was just not large enough. I do not like elongated stems (vertical or horizontal). I got the 2018 Roadini instead. It fits perfectly. My only gripe with the Roadini is that it is too stiff for my kind of riding (club rides that can be kind of fast). I prefer more lateral compliance in my bicycles, and the Roadini is just stiffer all round than I like. I will be selling it. It rides wonderfully, but compliance is not its cup of tea. My SOMA San Marcos which is really identical to the Roadini has more compliance-- perfect for long distance stuff and gravel. I will keep the San Marcos. It seems that Grant perfected frame design in the Roadini and the San Marcos: long head tubes and sloping top tubes for us tall riders really improves comfort immensely. My old Riv 'Redwood' was a great bike, but the stem was always too low, and I really do not like the 'stuck up' stem look.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 5:13 PM Tim Bantham <tba...@gmail.com> wrote: > @Doug H I have the same question about the fork. How did you decide > between the two? My saddle height is 84.5 cm with a PBH of 93. My bars are > 1.5 cm's below the saddle. On my Sam the 6 degree top tube slope creates a > bit more stack height. In comparison the Roadeo has a 2 degree slope. This > is why I am wondering what the HT size is on the size 63 that Matt has. I > am trying to decide if I could get my bars high enough with a threadless > form without having to add to many spacers. > > On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:59:07 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote: > >> John, You've got two great bikes with the QB and Roadeo. Both are high on >> my list to own. I mostly agree with your comments about taking the >> versatility of a Rivendell to far. I have an Appaloosa and a Sam. I had a >> Clem H and quickly sold it. The Clem was one I regretted and wished I >> hadn't gone down that path. With the Clem I tried to make it something it >> was not (at least to my standards) and that was an analog mountain bike. At >> the time I was caught up in the Rivendell Hillie Bike marketing only to be >> disappointed later. I found the ride to be heavy, dull and just >> uninspiring. I also did not get along with the very long chainstays. So in >> that sense my experience mirrors yours. >> >> Like the Atlantis, the Appaloosa is great at what it is meant for. >> Touring, bike packing, grocery getting both on and off road. I currently >> have it set up with 2.25 Schwalbe T-Burts tubeless. A very Un-Riv Jones >> Loop bars along with a White Industries Double. The bike is super stable >> loaded or unloaded on any surface. I love it for what it is and mostly ride >> it for those purposes. >> >> I have found the Sam to be the most versatile of them all. I've had that >> bike built up so many different ways, Before I had the Appaloosa I would >> ride it loaded with camping gear, It had Billie Bars, Albatross bars, >> Albastache bars and Noodle bars. I also had several different Nitto racks >> on it front and rear. All versions were great but I have finally settled on >> a drop bar set up. I ditched the Noodles for a 31.8 clamp so I could use >> Salsa Cowchippers. I have a Nitto Quill adaptor so I can use a normal clamp >> on stem. I mostly did that to make it easier to try different stem lengths >> without spending a fortune. I settled on a 110mm stem. This bike outshines >> my other Riv's in overall versatility. >> >> I think the Sam makes a great road bike. Similar to the very popular "all >> road" versions from the bigger brands. The Sam is better because it's >> lugged steel and has far more tire clearance. That said, I wish it was >> lighter and had more snap. I think the Roadeo would provide that. >> >> @Calvin, good for you on taking the plunge. You must be excited!! >> Although the Roadeo is technically not custom Mark Nobilette is a custom >> builder and talking to a local one man ship he told me most everyone is one >> year out. At least you are not having to wait until 2023 like some of the >> bigger brands out there! >> >> @Austin, Beautiful bike! I love the red and white color. Looks like Bon >> Jon Pass tires so I know it's good for 35's. I'm happy to see that because >> this is the minimum size RH tire that will set up tubeless. >> >> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:29:54 PM UTC-4 Austin B. wrote: >> >>> [image: 78447BB8-3CDE-4D78-873B-5A4287F94FEF.jpeg]Here’s my 63cm with a >>> modern take on components. >>> >>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:09:05 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote: >>> >>>> I ended up placing a deposit for the Roadeo instead of waiting for a >>>> Roadini. 10 month wait. I plan to put Ultegra on it like what's shown >>>> above. >>>> >>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:46:17 PM UTC-7 John G. wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've owned a Hunqapillar and an Atlantis. I currently own a Quickbeam >>>>> and a Roadeo. I sold the Hunq to buy the Atlantis, then I traded the >>>>> Atlantis for the Roadeo. >>>>> >>>>> First thing I'll say: Rivendells are incredibly versatile, but you >>>>> shouldn't try to turn a particular Riv into something it is not. For >>>>> example, I foolishly tried to make the Hunq a mountain bike for technical >>>>> Northeast trails. I then hoped the Atlantis would be a speedy but >>>>> comfortable brevet bike. Both bikes are a sensational at what they are >>>>> intended to do, but neither of them was intended for the purpose I set for >>>>> them. >>>>> >>>>> I love my Roadeo and I plan on always having one in my stable. It gets >>>>> the most miles out of all my bikes. It handles similarly to the Quickbeam: >>>>> stable, agile when you need it, confidence-inspiring, as comfortable at >>>>> mile 100 as mile 1.The Roadeo is a rocket compared to the Atlantis, which >>>>> is no knock on the Atlantis. >>>>> >>>>> I do miss the Atlantis. It was stout, but the handling was...stately. >>>>> Majestic, even. The head badge is utterly appropriate. Riding the Atlantis >>>>> felt like being at the helm of a clipper under full sail. If I had had a >>>>> Roadeo first and then an Atlantis, I never would've sold the Atlantis. But >>>>> I really wanted a Go Fast that fit wide tires and wouldn't beat the crap >>>>> out of me, and the Roadeo is exactly that. >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:16:49 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Matt and John, >>>>>> >>>>>> Both bikes are examples of how they can be built with modern parts >>>>>> and still maintain the beautiful look of a lugged steel Rivendell. Do >>>>>> either of you own other RIVs? If so, how does the ride compare? >>>>>> >>>>>> Matt, your bike is my size. Can you tell me how long the head tube >>>>>> is? I could find that information in the Geo charts I looked at. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:10:05 PM UTC-4 John G. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's mine! It's a 61cm. I'm open to selling it, complete or >>>>>>> frameset. I'd like to go up to a 63. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: IMG_4693.JPG] >>>>>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:28:06 PM UTC-4 MCT wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here you go, sized 63cm. I changed the saddle, chainrings and the >>>>>>>> fenders are not on right now from this picture, but close enough to the >>>>>>>> current build. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Matt in OKC >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> [image: IMG_0257.jpg] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. >>>>>>>>> Like some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road >>>>>>>>> bike". This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. >>>>>>>>> Shoes and clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no >>>>>>>>> racks >>>>>>>>> and just a x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a >>>>>>>>> fantastic road >>>>>>>>> bike! It rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless >>>>>>>>> tires >>>>>>>>> and I find it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy >>>>>>>>> going up >>>>>>>>> hill but I'm willing to live with that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a >>>>>>>>> Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit >>>>>>>>> down >>>>>>>>> but at least I'll always have the Sam. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c9e056fb-6f22-46df-9305-264dc8f53d36n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c9e056fb-6f22-46df-9305-264dc8f53d36n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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