Yep Joe, it would be a darn shame if we had to go actually ride bikes
instead of talking about bikes on the internet.
:)

--ben

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 3:52 PM Joe Bernard <[email protected]> wrote:

> Apparently my post last night literally ended Facebook and Instagram.
> Sorry everybody! 😬
>
> Joe "social media killer" Bernard
>
> On Sunday, October 3, 2021 at 10:19:08 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I'm just glad we still have a forum/list/whatever-it's-called for Riv
>> stuff that hasn't been absorbed into the Facebookization of everything. I
>> don't visit that place and am becoming increasingly wary of Instagram
>> because they own it, too. Google Groups, kind of annoying but good enough!
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Sunday, October 3, 2021 at 7:04:49 PM UTC-7 [email protected]
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jim for all your hard work to keep it going
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 7:55 PM Cyclofiend Jim <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for asking, Eric - at this point, it's a "known Known" and is
>>>> unlikely to be changed, barring Google dropping the entire Groups format.
>>>>
>>>> Despite drawbacks and quirks, it provides decent bandwidth with a
>>>> minimum of management and zero out of pocket cost. I've hosted, managed and
>>>> run Listservs, BBS's and their related offspring over the years and none of
>>>> them are without hassle.
>>>>
>>>> The attachment size for photos into Google Groups has been 25 MB for
>>>> some time now. Yeah... but the other option is to set up a nice photo album
>>>> and share that link.
>>>>
>>>> I have posted before that if things are not working correctly, the one
>>>> helpful "to-do" is to access the Settings panel and use the "Send feedback
>>>> to Google" button. Some things have actually been addressed over the years.
>>>>
>>>> There is a "For Sale" tag (Or "Label" in Googroup parlance).
>>>> Periodically I remind folks, but honestly, almost every list member seems
>>>> to label things clearly enough in the subject that it's hard to be 
>>>> confused.
>>>> There are actually three labels - "RBW-Emphemera" - "RBW-History" and
>>>> "transations-sell-buy-trade"
>>>> I"ve been relatively slow to implement them, as I did not want to
>>>> impose too much structure on this group.
>>>>
>>>> I would also say that basic searchability is pretty strong - that's
>>>> been refined a great deal over the last couple years. As with Gmail, it
>>>> uses tools which are pretty refined.
>>>>
>>>> As one more vector, there is a Rivendell Owners Bunch On Facebook group
>>>> which I set up a while ago, where For Sale/Trade is not allowed, and photos
>>>> are more the coin of the realm.
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/rbwownersbunch
>>>>
>>>> There's another one which I'm not an admin of called "Rivendellicious"
>>>> which also includes Bridgestone topics and allows transactions.
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/19202914712
>>>>
>>>> again, I appreciate your input - thanks!
>>>>
>>>> - Jim / group admin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, October 3, 2021 at 7:09:29 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all -- I'm relatively new in these parts but I do love and
>>>>> appreciate the community, information, gear swaps and laughs of the RBW
>>>>> Owners Bunch.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, man, Google Groups is awful. I'm a member of a few other forums
>>>>> that use phpBB <https://www.phpbb.com/> which is, to my mind, real
>>>>> nice and easy to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Problems I see here:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Generally difficult to keep up with rolling posts, format
>>>>>    doesn't lend to quick scanning and visual organization
>>>>>    - Threads don't have pages! Infinite scroll
>>>>>    - DMs get lost
>>>>>    - Sharing images is a total pain
>>>>>    - We don't have discussion folders for broad categories.
>>>>>    Spitballing here but we could have: General discussion, For Sale, 
>>>>> Repairs
>>>>>    and maintenance, etc.
>>>>>    - A For Sale folder with a tagged/pinned mega thread with frames
>>>>>    for sale would be cool, supplemented by our rolling gear posts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe phpbb would add some much needed functionality, editing
>>>>> capability, sharing capability and browsing capability! I have not done 
>>>>> *any
>>>>> *research into the cost or what it would take to set up a new forum
>>>>> but I'd wager that a few of us would gladly chip in to cover the costs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Food for thought. Perhaps this has been discussed previously. But I
>>>>> think there are better ways for us to get together.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did I mention Google groups is awful?
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, peace and love!
>>>>> Eric
>>>>>
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