Yes!! I was hoping to hear from the other proto owners.  Yours is the 
reverse of mine. I have a Gallop headbadge but protovelo decals and your 
has the gallop decals but no headbadge.  Love the color on that one. How is 
it with drops? Are you planning to keep it that way? Do they have mini-V's 
on that? It looks like it might.

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:02:15 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Introducing MY protovelo Charlie (54cm), if it's okay for me to join you 
> in this thread Johnny! 
>
> Quick neighborhood ride today between meetings in exactly the trim it came 
> in, because I'll be swapping parts around from here on out and wanted to 
> document the starting point.  
>
> [image: PXL_20220210_234926117.jpg]
>
> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 05:57:35 UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> @Eric I missed your question yesterday. I use it for all my road riding. 
>> I normally (In the warmer months) ride a few times a week and about 10 
>> miles at a time. I like light trails rides but those require me driving to 
>> them so I don't do them as often and am in the process of getting another 
>> bike setup for those rides and for shopping runs.  This one will stick to 
>> the fun quick road rides. I did do a couple of "tour" rides with it last 
>> year. Those were in the 50-75 miles range.  I still had the Billie bars at 
>> that time and it all worked well.  I have it built to be pretty light and 
>> IMO it rides like a great road bike should. The front end was flexy with 
>> the old Nitto stem and wide Billie bars. I am curious as to how the new 
>> setup will affect that. Its still pretty cold so my rides have been very 
>> short. The long wheelbase makes fast descents solid and fun.  Its a new 
>> experience doing all of my riding upright now but so far I don't have a 
>> desire to go back. (although I do love Albastache bars).
>>
>> I am a bit shocked that Rivendell is going to make these available with 
>> albastache bars stock.  I normally run the albastache on a shorter stem 
>> than my drops. So if I ride drops on an 8 I would put an albastache on a 7 
>> or more likely a 6.  It's because I spend more time stretched out into the 
>> "hook" area which is not something I do as often on regular drops. There I 
>> spend the bulk of my time on the top or hoods.  The Gallop is designed for 
>> sweptback bars so in order to do drops you would need a very short stem 
>> unless you have a long torso.  For me to do albastache I would probably 
>> need one of those zero extension bars. I think they should keep pushing the 
>> sweptbacks. I think the choco and losco/tosco are going to be the sweet 
>> spot but I will know more in a few weeks when things start to warm up.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:02:47 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I forgot that I was so positive about the Ultradynamicos.  I had the JFF 
>>> version which is not the most supple but also not the most robust.  They 
>>> rode well but after awhile for mostly road use the little knobs or whatever 
>>> they are just seemed to be a drag. I think they would do really well for 
>>> light trail use but for straight road use they just ended up seeming a 
>>> little overbuilt for what they want to be.  I was loving life when I first 
>>> got this bike and I think I was overlooking aspects of the tire that later 
>>> became more apparent. I never tried the race version but for the money I 
>>> think there are better riding and more supple options. Many of them cheaper 
>>> too.
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:31:28 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>> I too was surprised to see you ended up not feeling the Cava's, though 
>>>> I wholeheartedly agree that the RH tires are vastly more comfortable.  I 
>>>> find the UD Cava to be a nice mix of speed and grip for mixed pavement and 
>>>> hardpack, but their casings don't feel very supple/comfortable even in 
>>>> Race 
>>>> version.  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, 9 February 2022 at 18:19:38 UTC-8 Justin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The cockpit change up was an improvement, looks great. Curious about 
>>>>> the Ultradynamicos. In your original post you highly recommended them but 
>>>>> ended up not caring for them, curious what changed? I've been waiting on 
>>>>> their restocking
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 5:22:42 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks great, Johnny. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you tell us about the ride? How does it handle and what kinds of 
>>>>>> rides have you taken it on? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 3:30:55 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Updated photos: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - New stem (I like the positive degree angle and also wanted 
>>>>>>>    something with a removable faceplate)
>>>>>>>    - I swapped the bar for Loscos (I like the Billies and will be 
>>>>>>>    using them on an upcoming build but I think the Losco has a better 
>>>>>>> look for 
>>>>>>>    a road bike and no negatives when compared to the Billies)
>>>>>>>    - I swapped tires (I didn't care for the Ultradymanicos. They 
>>>>>>>    are Rene Herse tires and they are really nice. The mismatching is 
>>>>>>> just 
>>>>>>>    because)
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>> [image: PXL_20220209_172031042.jpg]
>>>>>>> [image: PXL_20220209_172040691.jpg]
>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 12:48:02 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Beautiful build, and I am supremely jealous. The crew knows that if 
>>>>>>>> they decide to sell the grivler 53, they've got a buyer in me. I love 
>>>>>>>> how 
>>>>>>>> low and long it is, like a scrawny Hillibike. That would be a pretty 
>>>>>>>> optimal two-bike quiver; this and a matching Susie.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 11 September 2021 at 19:10:22 UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am sure that you are absolutely correct about the stem playing 
>>>>>>>>> into it. I would actually drop this stem a touch but it's one of 
>>>>>>>>> those 
>>>>>>>>> overly long one stems and that is literally as low as it will go. I 
>>>>>>>>> ordered 
>>>>>>>>> a Nitto MT mountain stem which would have been shorter in length and 
>>>>>>>>> angled 
>>>>>>>>> up a touch to allow me to drop it even further but I messed up and it 
>>>>>>>>> was 
>>>>>>>>> for a 25.4 column instead of 22.2. End result it won't work and I 
>>>>>>>>> can't 
>>>>>>>>> sell a stem of that size because who needs it?  Killer looking 
>>>>>>>>> custom!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 7:04:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's a nice (and currently extremely rare) bike! I have my 
>>>>>>>>>> custom set up similar with a 36t Sugino (with guard) and 11-50 
>>>>>>>>>> 11-speed. 
>>>>>>>>>> Bars are Billie on a Periscopa, about to be switched to a 10cm 
>>>>>>>>>> DirtDrop 
>>>>>>>>>> stem. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your flex issue with Billie's may be (probably is) partly 
>>>>>>>>>> attributable to that long flexy stem you're using. I'll bet a 
>>>>>>>>>> DirtDrop - if 
>>>>>>>>>> you can make the length work - or steel Nitto HiRiser would stiffen 
>>>>>>>>>> things 
>>>>>>>>>> up some. Here's a pic of my Billie/Periscopa. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joe Bernard
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 12:38:49 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My free time has been limited so I let a local shop do most of 
>>>>>>>>>>> the work on my newly acquired Gallop. It's set up as a 1X11 (my 
>>>>>>>>>>> first for 
>>>>>>>>>>> that type of drivetrain). That's a 36t Woolftooth chainring mated 
>>>>>>>>>>> to New 
>>>>>>>>>>> Albion crank arms. I knew that the New Albion's were rebranded 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sugino but 
>>>>>>>>>>> what's interesting is they actually say XD on the inside. The rear 
>>>>>>>>>>> cassette 
>>>>>>>>>>> is 11-42. I don't need the super low gears and the 42 has less 
>>>>>>>>>>> drastic 
>>>>>>>>>>> jumps.  After riding this for a few days I think I am going to move 
>>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>>>> chainring up to a 38t. Maybe even 40t. I'm not sure yet.  I went 
>>>>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>>>>> mini-v brakes because 1. My brakes were compatible with both long 
>>>>>>>>>>> and short 
>>>>>>>>>>> pull and 2, It would give me flexibility if I decided to go with 
>>>>>>>>>>> more of a 
>>>>>>>>>>> road setup at some time.  It turns out that while there is plenty 
>>>>>>>>>>> of room 
>>>>>>>>>>> for big tires the mini-v's at 85mm long are REALLY close to the 
>>>>>>>>>>> tires.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>> do love these brakes though so I may move them over to my Saluki 
>>>>>>>>>>> and go 
>>>>>>>>>>> with regular V's on this. I have heard that Grant is considering 
>>>>>>>>>>> moving 
>>>>>>>>>>> away from the V setup on these if they go into production. I assume 
>>>>>>>>>>> they 
>>>>>>>>>>> would move to sidepull for a more standard road look. I will say 
>>>>>>>>>>> this...I 
>>>>>>>>>>> was told that these would handle 45mm tires but with the right 
>>>>>>>>>>> brakes it 
>>>>>>>>>>> could go much bigger than that.  The Ultradynamicos I highly 
>>>>>>>>>>> recommend. The 
>>>>>>>>>>> microshift thumbshifter works flawlessly with the Shimano RD when 
>>>>>>>>>>> indexed. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Better than I expected.  I am on the fence about the Billie bars. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy 
>>>>>>>>>>> them but I am not used to this wide of bars with that much flex. 
>>>>>>>>>>> It's 
>>>>>>>>>>> weird.  Anyway here are the photos. The bike is killer and does 
>>>>>>>>>>> exactly 
>>>>>>>>>>> what Grant wanted...a road focused bike built for sweptback bars. 
>>>>>>>>>>> It's 
>>>>>>>>>>> pretty light and has a cool oval top tube. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

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