Beautiful bike and build Jason.
Love to see other Rivendell drop bar bikes.

David Hays

> On Feb 10, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Jason Fuller <jtf.ful...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Introducing MY protovelo Charlie (54cm), if it's okay for me to join you in 
> this thread Johnny! 
> 
> Quick neighborhood ride today between meetings in exactly the trim it came 
> in, because I'll be swapping parts around from here on out and wanted to 
> document the starting point.  
> 
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> 
> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 05:57:35 UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
> @Eric I missed your question yesterday. I use it for all my road riding. I 
> normally (In the warmer months) ride a few times a week and about 10 miles at 
> a time. I like light trails rides but those require me driving to them so I 
> don't do them as often and am in the process of getting another bike setup 
> for those rides and for shopping runs.  This one will stick to the fun quick 
> road rides. I did do a couple of "tour" rides with it last year. Those were 
> in the 50-75 miles range.  I still had the Billie bars at that time and it 
> all worked well.  I have it built to be pretty light and IMO it rides like a 
> great road bike should. The front end was flexy with the old Nitto stem and 
> wide Billie bars. I am curious as to how the new setup will affect that. Its 
> still pretty cold so my rides have been very short. The long wheelbase makes 
> fast descents solid and fun.  Its a new experience doing all of my riding 
> upright now but so far I don't have a desire to go back. (although I do love 
> Albastache bars).
> 
> I am a bit shocked that Rivendell is going to make these available with 
> albastache bars stock.  I normally run the albastache on a shorter stem than 
> my drops. So if I ride drops on an 8 I would put an albastache on a 7 or more 
> likely a 6.  It's because I spend more time stretched out into the "hook" 
> area which is not something I do as often on regular drops. There I spend the 
> bulk of my time on the top or hoods.  The Gallop is designed for sweptback 
> bars so in order to do drops you would need a very short stem unless you have 
> a long torso.  For me to do albastache I would probably need one of those 
> zero extension bars. I think they should keep pushing the sweptbacks. I think 
> the choco and losco/tosco are going to be the sweet spot but I will know more 
> in a few weeks when things start to warm up.
> 
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:02:47 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
> I forgot that I was so positive about the Ultradynamicos.  I had the JFF 
> version which is not the most supple but also not the most robust.  They rode 
> well but after awhile for mostly road use the little knobs or whatever they 
> are just seemed to be a drag. I think they would do really well for light 
> trail use but for straight road use they just ended up seeming a little 
> overbuilt for what they want to be.  I was loving life when I first got this 
> bike and I think I was overlooking aspects of the tire that later became more 
> apparent. I never tried the race version but for the money I think there are 
> better riding and more supple options. Many of them cheaper too.
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:31:28 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
> I too was surprised to see you ended up not feeling the Cava's, though I 
> wholeheartedly agree that the RH tires are vastly more comfortable.  I find 
> the UD Cava to be a nice mix of speed and grip for mixed pavement and 
> hardpack, but their casings don't feel very supple/comfortable even in Race 
> version.  
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, 9 February 2022 at 18:19:38 UTC-8 Justin wrote:
> The cockpit change up was an improvement, looks great. Curious about the 
> Ultradynamicos. In your original post you highly recommended them but ended 
> up not caring for them, curious what changed? I've been waiting on their 
> restocking
> 
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 5:22:42 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com <> wrote:
> Looks great, Johnny. 
> 
> Can you tell us about the ride? How does it handle and what kinds of rides 
> have you taken it on? 
> 
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 3:30:55 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
> Updated photos: 
> New stem (I like the positive degree angle and also wanted something with a 
> removable faceplate)
> I swapped the bar for Loscos (I like the Billies and will be using them on an 
> upcoming build but I think the Losco has a better look for a road bike and no 
> negatives when compared to the Billies)
> I swapped tires (I didn't care for the Ultradymanicos. They are Rene Herse 
> tires and they are really nice. The mismatching is just because)
> 
> 
> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 12:48:02 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
> Beautiful build, and I am supremely jealous. The crew knows that if they 
> decide to sell the grivler 53, they've got a buyer in me. I love how low and 
> long it is, like a scrawny Hillibike. That would be a pretty optimal two-bike 
> quiver; this and a matching Susie.  
> 
> On Saturday, 11 September 2021 at 19:10:22 UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
> I am sure that you are absolutely correct about the stem playing into it. I 
> would actually drop this stem a touch but it's one of those overly long one 
> stems and that is literally as low as it will go. I ordered a Nitto MT 
> mountain stem which would have been shorter in length and angled up a touch 
> to allow me to drop it even further but I messed up and it was for a 25.4 
> column instead of 22.2. End result it won't work and I can't sell a stem of 
> that size because who needs it?  Killer looking custom!!
> 
> On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 7:04:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
> That's a nice (and currently extremely rare) bike! I have my custom set up 
> similar with a 36t Sugino (with guard) and 11-50 11-speed. Bars are Billie on 
> a Periscopa, about to be switched to a 10cm DirtDrop stem. 
> 
> Your flex issue with Billie's may be (probably is) partly attributable to 
> that long flexy stem you're using. I'll bet a DirtDrop - if you can make the 
> length work - or steel Nitto HiRiser would stiffen things up some. Here's a 
> pic of my Billie/Periscopa. 
> 
> Joe Bernard
> 
> On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 12:38:49 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
> My free time has been limited so I let a local shop do most of the work on my 
> newly acquired Gallop. It's set up as a 1X11 (my first for that type of 
> drivetrain). That's a 36t Woolftooth chainring mated to New Albion crank 
> arms. I knew that the New Albion's were rebranded Sugino but what's 
> interesting is they actually say XD on the inside. The rear cassette is 
> 11-42. I don't need the super low gears and the 42 has less drastic jumps.  
> After riding this for a few days I think I am going to move the chainring up 
> to a 38t. Maybe even 40t. I'm not sure yet.  I went with mini-v brakes 
> because 1. My brakes were compatible with both long and short pull and 2, It 
> would give me flexibility if I decided to go with more of a road setup at 
> some time.  It turns out that while there is plenty of room for big tires the 
> mini-v's at 85mm long are REALLY close to the tires.  I do love these brakes 
> though so I may move them over to my Saluki and go with regular V's on this. 
> I have heard that Grant is considering moving away from the V setup on these 
> if they go into production. I assume they would move to sidepull for a more 
> standard road look. I will say this...I was told that these would handle 45mm 
> tires but with the right brakes it could go much bigger than that.  The 
> Ultradynamicos I highly recommend. The microshift thumbshifter works 
> flawlessly with the Shimano RD when indexed. Better than I expected.  I am on 
> the fence about the Billie bars. I enjoy them but I am not used to this wide 
> of bars with that much flex. It's weird.  Anyway here are the photos. The 
> bike is killer and does exactly what Grant wanted...a road focused bike built 
> for sweptback bars. It's pretty light and has a cool oval top tube. 
> 
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