IMO it's hard to beat the look and feel of the Albatross. I've set up my 
Sam with something like 6-7 different bars at this point; started with the 
Albatross and finally came back around to that setup a few months back. It 
seems like most newer bars that Riv makes come back extra far to complement 
the longer reach of their newer models. Since the Albatross predates those 
bikes I think they strike a nice balance when coming from drops. I think 
something like +2cm on a stem will keep the fit/feel from popping you too 
upright if you're used to Noodles. I have an 11cm stem and have considered 
a 12, but since it's pretty fine as-is I haven't bothered with the swap.

Shifter choice might also play into your decision. I have Microshift 
thumbies flipped inboard which sorta takes away the "in between" hand 
position because it clogs up the bars a bit. This is less of an issue on a 
bar like Chocos because they have additional sweep. If you run bar ends, 
you get that extra 2ish cm of sweep from the bar end pods and also get to 
keep the "in between" position. I've been thinking about moving to stem 
shifters or moving the thumbies up next to the stem in the forward-most 
hand position.

Erik, Philly

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:11:08 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback.  How much longer depends 
> on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache in which 
> case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a shorter 
> stem when moving from drops to albastache.  For conventional sweptback my 
> suggestion for first sweptback from drops is choco or losco.  But it's 
> really a preference thing and hinges on how upright you want to be.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:36 AM UTC-5 rcr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but want to 
>> convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a similar 
>> conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?
>>
>

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