I actually went the other way, converting from Albatross to Noodles. With 
the Albas, I had a 12cm stem and bar end shifters (although I think 
thumbies would be better). They felt very upright for me - hence the move 
to Noodles - but I can't figure out whether I just didn't take to the 
sweepback of the Albas, or I was just used to drops. The Noodle setup is 
using 48cm noodles with a 7cm stem, although sometimes I wish it were 5cm 
or 6cm (or I just had compact bars). I'm going to try some SimWorks Fun 3s 
or Nitto Wavies with a 135 faceplater to see if that changes my mind on 
non-drop bars for this bike.

On Monday, 14 February 2022 at 11:28:50 UTC-5 Erik Wright wrote:

> IMO it's hard to beat the look and feel of the Albatross. I've set up my 
> Sam with something like 6-7 different bars at this point; started with the 
> Albatross and finally came back around to that setup a few months back. It 
> seems like most newer bars that Riv makes come back extra far to complement 
> the longer reach of their newer models. Since the Albatross predates those 
> bikes I think they strike a nice balance when coming from drops. I think 
> something like +2cm on a stem will keep the fit/feel from popping you too 
> upright if you're used to Noodles. I have an 11cm stem and have considered 
> a 12, but since it's pretty fine as-is I haven't bothered with the swap.
>
> Shifter choice might also play into your decision. I have Microshift 
> thumbies flipped inboard which sorta takes away the "in between" hand 
> position because it clogs up the bars a bit. This is less of an issue on a 
> bar like Chocos because they have additional sweep. If you run bar ends, 
> you get that extra 2ish cm of sweep from the bar end pods and also get to 
> keep the "in between" position. I've been thinking about moving to stem 
> shifters or moving the thumbies up next to the stem in the forward-most 
> hand position.
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:11:08 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback.  How much longer 
>> depends on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache in 
>> which case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a 
>> shorter stem when moving from drops to albastache.  For conventional 
>> sweptback my suggestion for first sweptback from drops is choco or losco.  
>> But it's really a preference thing and hinges on how upright you want to be.
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:36 AM UTC-5 rcr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but want 
>>> to convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a similar 
>>> conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?
>>>
>>

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