So I'm wrong. This happens occasionally! šŸ™ƒ

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:06:28 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Sofia is! She has a blue Clem from the lottery and I donā€™t think she is 
> 5ā€™1ā€.
>
> On Apr 26, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ļ»æI wish they would cut this part from the product description:
>
>
>    - 45cm / 27.5-inch new mountain bikey size wheels. Typical rider 
>    height: 5-0 to 5-5
>    - 52cm / 27.5-inch new mountain bikey size wheels. Typical rider 
>    height: 5-5 to 5-11
>
> It's from the first batch and doesn't even correspond to the PBH recs 
> elsewhere in the description. Nobody 5 feet tall is riding a current 45cm 
> Clem L. 
>
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:34:32 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Good catch Joe. I think that is a good change and makes sense with the 
>> loooong  chainstays.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> To clarify, the 45cm Clem L is a 27.5/650b bike now. And longer ETT than 
>>> the old 26-ers. 
>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:06 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Keith,
>>>> I ride a 52 Clem and am 5'10" with an 83 PBH. I could ride a 59 I think 
>>>> but I prefer the 650b wheels. The 45 Clem has 26 inch wheels while the 59 
>>>> has 700c. It's so cool that wheel size scales to frame size! That you can 
>>>> ride multiple sizes is one advantage (of several) to the low top tube 
>>>> bikes. Here is a photo of mine set up for me and you can see I have plenty 
>>>> of seat post showing.
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> [image: Clem L.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 7:30:04 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Keith, hereā€™s a photo of my Platypus; you can see how little seat post 
>>>>> is showing. But I promise itā€™s the right size!
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2022, at 7:27 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ļ»æHi Keith, I have the 52 Clem and the 55 Platy. They are completely 
>>>>> different bikes and the sizing is confusing because the 52 Clem feels 
>>>>> bigger than the 55 Platypus. I am 5ā€™6ā€, with an 81 cm PBH. Technically, I 
>>>>> would be sized for the top end of the 50 Platy, but I like to size up if 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> can. I have very little seat post showing, but I canā€™t imagine riding the 
>>>>> smaller-sized Platypus. I love how the 55 Platypus fits me. The Clem also 
>>>>> feels right to me, but it took a lot of experimenting with stems before I 
>>>>> settled into it. I think I have an 80 on the Clem and a 100 on the Platy. 
>>>>> After riding the Clem, my Platypus will feel a little cramped to me at 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> start of the ride. I think a 50 would definitely feel too small after 
>>>>> riding a 52 Clem. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be helpful if you could test ride, but these bikes are rare 
>>>>> as henā€™s teeth, arenā€™t they? People are really nice about letting other 
>>>>> Listers test ride a Rivendell, so maybe post a ā€œWant to test rideā€ 
>>>>> thread? 
>>>>> There might be someone with a 45 Clem L or a 55 Platy in your area who 
>>>>> would let you throw a leg over it for a hot minuteā€¦
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any leads on the bikes youā€™re considering?  I hope so! I 
>>>>> donā€™t often see Cheviots or Platypuses for sale and it will be a long 
>>>>> wait 
>>>>> until Rivendell gets their next shipments. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 10:38:22 PM UTC-4 Keith Swanson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a 52 Clem L that feels a bit large for me and am trying to 
>>>>>> decide whether to replace it with a 50 Platypus or a 45 Clem L (If 
>>>>>> anyone 
>>>>>> has a 50 Cheviot frame in silver or blue I would be interested).  Does 
>>>>>> anyone know if there's much of a difference between the two sizes?  The 
>>>>>> 52 
>>>>>> Clementine I test rode felt much different than the one I have now.
>>>>>
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