Hmm, not sure how that would have helped me? I’d of had no useable frame of reference. The Clem is so long I might have discounted it out of hand. I was trying to get more comfortable while upright & would not have thought it possible given the effective top tube measurement. And then on top of that the bike I was considering came with a 13cm stem! But a few pedal strokes wa all it took.:)
Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 26, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Basically the trick to purchasing any Clem - especially used - is to get the > effective toptube number and start from there. I know Grant hates this advice > but you gotta have some kinda guideline if you're not able to ride it first. > >> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 12:45:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: >> When I spoke to Grant about the Clem a few years ago he suggested the 59 >> would work well for me but I decided on a 52 in large part for the wheel >> size. But, that conversation may have been based on the first gen geometry >> which has changed. >> Doug >> >>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 3:23:04 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Interesting observation. I love the fit of my 52 Clem but wonder if I >>> “should” be on a 59? A little more than a fistful of seatpost showing and >>> with a 130mm (I know!) FacePater & 650 wide Tosco. The stem is as high as >>> it can go. So a 59 could work I guess but with a much shorter stem? >>> According to the size suggestions you reference I should definitely be on a >>> 52. But based on PBH I could probably be comfortable on a 59. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Apr 26, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>> I wish they would cut this part from the product description: >>> >>>> 45cm / 27.5-inch new mountain bikey size wheels. Typical rider height: 5-0 >>>> to 5-5 >>>> 52cm / 27.5-inch new mountain bikey size wheels. Typical rider height: 5-5 >>>> to 5-11 >>>> It's from the first batch and doesn't even correspond to the PBH recs >>>> elsewhere in the description. Nobody 5 feet tall is riding a current 45cm >>>> Clem L. >>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:34:32 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: >>>>> Good catch Joe. I think that is a good change and makes sense with the >>>>> loooong chainstays. >>>>> Doug >>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> To clarify, the 45cm Clem L is a 27.5/650b bike now. And longer ETT than >>>>>> the old 26-ers. >>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:06 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: >>>>>>> Keith, >>>>>>> I ride a 52 Clem and am 5'10" with an 83 PBH. I could ride a 59 I think >>>>>>> but I prefer the 650b wheels. The 45 Clem has 26 inch wheels while the >>>>>>> 59 has 700c. It's so cool that wheel size scales to frame size! That >>>>>>> you can ride multiple sizes is one advantage (of several) to the low >>>>>>> top tube bikes. Here is a photo of mine set up for me and you can see I >>>>>>> have plenty of seat post showing. >>>>>>> Doug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 7:30:04 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>>>>> Keith, here’s a photo of my Platypus; you can see how little seat post >>>>>>>> is showing. But I promise it’s the right size! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2022, at 7:27 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>>>>>>>>> <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Keith, I have the 52 Clem and the 55 Platy. They are completely >>>>>>>>> different bikes and the sizing is confusing because the 52 Clem feels >>>>>>>>> bigger than the 55 Platypus. I am 5’6”, with an 81 cm PBH. >>>>>>>>> Technically, I would be sized for the top end of the 50 Platy, but I >>>>>>>>> like to size up if I can. I have very little seat post showing, but I >>>>>>>>> can’t imagine riding the smaller-sized Platypus. I love how the 55 >>>>>>>>> Platypus fits me. The Clem also feels right to me, but it took a lot >>>>>>>>> of experimenting with stems before I settled into it. I think I have >>>>>>>>> an 80 on the Clem and a 100 on the Platy. After riding the Clem, my >>>>>>>>> Platypus will feel a little cramped to me at the start of the ride. I >>>>>>>>> think a 50 would definitely feel too small after riding a 52 Clem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It would be helpful if you could test ride, but these bikes are rare >>>>>>>>> as hen’s teeth, aren’t they? People are really nice about letting >>>>>>>>> other Listers test ride a Rivendell, so maybe post a “Want to test >>>>>>>>> ride” thread? There might be someone with a 45 Clem L or a 55 Platy >>>>>>>>> in your area who would let you throw a leg over it for a hot minute… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you have any leads on the bikes you’re considering? I hope so! I >>>>>>>>> don’t often see Cheviots or Platypuses for sale and it will be a long >>>>>>>>> wait until Rivendell gets their next shipments. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 10:38:22 PM UTC-4 Keith Swanson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I have a 52 Clem L that feels a bit large for me and am trying to >>>>>>>>>> decide whether to replace it with a 50 Platypus or a 45 Clem L (If >>>>>>>>>> anyone has a 50 Cheviot frame in silver or blue I would be >>>>>>>>>> interested). Does anyone know if there's much of a difference >>>>>>>>>> between the two sizes? 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