Oh you'd probably have to dig a while to come upon this information, most 
of us only know it cuz we were around when the "700c mountain bike" was a 
huge flop, then someone had the bright idea to rename the wheel and the 
29er was born.

See, also: 650B - an old French size Riv and a couple others revived 
16-or-so years ago - became 27.5 for MTBs. 

Joe "my 650B Riv has 27.5" tires" Bernard 

On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 3:29:32 PM UTC-7 Jacob Lopez wrote:

> Well, I feel silly.  A little more research could have answered that!  
> Thanks, folks!  I appreciate that.  Makes sense now, the part where it says 
> 29er *tires*...
>
> ~Jacob
>
> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 3:20:16 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> Jacob, 700c and 29er, 29in all refer to the same rim diameter of 622mm. 
>> The term "29er" came about because the mtb crowd wouldn't dare be 
>> associated with them thar road biker crowd so they had to call it 
>> *something*. A fatter tire would only induce toe overlap if the frame 
>> didn't have sufficient clearance to begin with and/or you pedal midfoot 
>> with big feet and long cranks. The latest Clems though have so much 
>> front-center(measured from the center BB to center front axle), none of the 
>> above applies. 
>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 6:01:54 PM UTC-4 Jacob Lopez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, All.
>>>
>>> I did a quick search but didn't find a thread, so let me know if you 
>>> know of one re this topic and I can remove this re Clem L's 59cm with 29ers:
>>>
>>> I noticed on the Riv site that 59cm Clem's can take 700c rims and "29er 
>>> Tires".  Does that mean that it can take 29in rims, or...?   I may be 
>>> looking to size up on my 52cm Clem L to a 59cm and I'm super curious to how 
>>> 29's perform on this size.  Any experience with that (if, of course I'm 
>>> reading the specs right and the bike can take 29in wheels)?  Does this 
>>> introduce toe-overlap?
>>>
>>> Jacob
>>> San Diego, CA
>>>
>>

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