It should be pointed out that no one knows whether the break had anything 
at all to do with loaded weight. It could have been run over by a car for 
all we know. (Unless someone read through that thread and determined what 
happened)

On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 8:58:40 PM UTC-4 Paul Clifton wrote:

> The 160 limit seems extremely low, and has definitely been pushed 
> successfully, which I reckon is why they raised it to 225-ish. I suspect 
> having room for beefy tires encourages people to really put a bike through 
> its paces, which may have influenced Grant's conservative load limits. It's 
> like Nitto saying a rack will only hold 5 lbs because they know people will 
> put 15 lbs on it, but people would probably put 40 lbs on it if they didn't 
> say anything, and some people still do.
>
> I think I remember something similar happening with the Sam. When it was 
> introduced, it was "not intended for loaded touring", but people loaded it 
> down and toured on it anyway, and Grant adjusted his thoughts about what it 
> was capable of. That behavior may have also led to the second top tube. But 
> this is all conjecture on my part.
>
> Either way, I'm not really surprised that a Susie broke, and I still think 
> it's unlikely anyone is going to break a Susie just riding along ...
>
> Paul
>
> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 4:59:28 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> I find the weight limits very interesting. Rivendell has always marketed 
>> their bikes as the “anti-racer” or “not light” alternative to wispy 
>> aluminum and carbon bikes. Selling a bike with a weight limit most of us 
>> would exceed seems strange. A max of 160 pounds implies to me a bike unlike 
>> what I would expect from a company that urges us to take their products, 
>> load a bunch of stuff on them, and ride on unpaved trails to an overnight 
>> campout. After all, if I put 10 pounds of stuff on the bike, I can only 
>> weight 150 pounds myself?
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> --Eric “Heavier than 160 Pounds” Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2022, at 2:48 PM, Ryan Frahm <fra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I did tell them that I ride semi aggressive and would be bikepacking, I 
>> just don’t do any big jumps. They still told me Susie at my weight. So I’d 
>> imagine there was some other factors for that break. But I guess I’d be 
>> crazy loaded if I got over it 200 total with me and my camp gear. 
>>
>> I can say that it rides smoother than anything I’ve ever ridden, I wonder 
>> if the Gus truly has that same ride. I only have 60 or so miles on it and 
>> it has been mostly bike path. We’ll see how it goes when I get a chance to 
>> take it on some real trails!
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 2:18:10 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> Originally it was 160 pounds, one of the main reasons I didn't jump on 
>>> the first batch. Over six foot that was a very low weight limit and it made 
>>> me nervous. Somewhat Ironically, photos of this exact bike made me think, 
>>> actually I'd be fine.
>>>
>>> I rode down the stairs to the underpass on the weekend, I wont do that 
>>> again. Surprise surprise, Grant knows his bikes best.
>>>
>>>
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