I’m another rider who started wirh drops on my first 10 speed that I got for my thirteenth birthday. Still on drops 58 years later, always level with my saddle. Twice I’ve built up bikes with flat bars and always went back to drops. I do spend most of my time on the ramps or hoods but whenever descending, once my speed reaches 25-30 mph I always reach for the drops and feel much more secure. I’m curious how others feel on upright bikes while descending. Steve On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 4:11 PM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Marc Irwin stated: "The point is that riders don't use that position > (I'm assuming drops). Even against the wind, only one with drop bars > actually got into the lower position. They all stayed up on the hoods or > the flats the whole ride." > > Typically, this is because their stems are too low and the drops are too > low to use, unless your a pro rider or a top athlete. If you raise the > stem to get the tops at saddle height, the drops are very usuable. I > believe Grant P made this point in a RR in the past. > > Also, above 15 mph, I can feel the increase drag from the wind resistance > and go down to the drops to reduce it. Others may be content with being > more upright, but you need additional energy to do it. > > Just remember, wind resistance varies as the square of the velocity: 15 > mph has 2.25 times the wind drag as at 10 mph ( (15/10)^2 ), even though > you are going only 1.5 times as fast. If you a going into a headwind, > the wind speed adds to you wind resistance. > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ > > On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 8:12:02 AM UTC-4 Marc Irwin wrote: > >> Eric, >> The point is that riders don't use that position. Even against the wind, >> only one with drop bars actually got into the lower position. They all >> stayed up on the hoods or the flats the whole ride. >> >> Marc >> >> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:38:12 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote: >> >>> Is there any doubt drop bars aren’t faster? Less drag goes a long way. A >>> more leaned over position lets you use your big butt muscles better. >>> >>> Leah is up front because she’s a strong rider. Maybe she would be up >>> fronter if she had drops. >>> >>> Eric >>> With no drop bar bikes in the garage. >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022, Marc Irwin <irwi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It was a normal Monday night ride with the Kalamazoo Bicycle Club. A >>>> typical group was riding 15-16 MPH for 25 or so miles. A good bunch of >>>> people in biking regalia on their over the counter crotch rockets with drop >>>> bars, except for me and Leah Peterson on our Rivendells. with upright >>>> bars. In the lousy cell phone shot I took from the back of the group, >>>> Leah is the second white helmet from from the front left. Notice her >>>> posture compared to the body position of all the riders on their drop bars. >>>> [image: high bars.jpg] >>>> It was that way the whole ride. Most club riders assume their drop bars >>>> make them faster, after all, EVERYBODY uses them right? >>>> >>>> Marc >>>> >>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cedfdbf5-1e48-4ac8-b43b-5a4929b914c5n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cedfdbf5-1e48-4ac8-b43b-5a4929b914c5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b93a73cd-c758-44db-afb2-c47cacf737cen%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b93a73cd-c758-44db-afb2-c47cacf737cen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Steven Sweedler Plymouth, New Hampshire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALimyfJJze69V-e8H_YNEiEFG%2Bq-PBTdiSyYMHg7PMSQjtRuxg%40mail.gmail.com.
