>From time to time I have used reverse pull front derailleurs on a tandem because the springs of normal pull front derailleurs were of insufficient strength to reliably drop the chain onto the granny, a most undesirable and annoying thing. Based upon that experience, I do not want to rely upon a spring to get me to a lower gear. I've had well worn normal rear derailleurs have trouble getting to the smallest cog at times, or be a bit slow on the upshift - mildly annoying. But, when I want a lower gear, I want it NOW. I like my VGT's and Cyclones. On the other hand, at my age, perhaps switching would confuse my brain enough to help ward off dementia.
The new Rene Herse derailleurs don't rely upon a spring either way, do they? But then, they can't be used with cogs with as many teeth as I want. Bill S San Diego On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:12 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > The rear derailleur on my first-gen Sam Hill, Riv's shop-floor model, was > equipped with an LX rapid rise rd. I used it for the first few miles with > the Silver bes (friction) and found that the action was very light and the > shifting very precise; certainly one of the most precise-shifting and easy > to shift rds I've used. > > But I didn't take to the reverse action and after a short while switched > to an equally light and precise shifting but normal direction road rd made > or sold by Nashbar; I forget the made-up brand name, but it's cheap and > easy to find and comes or came in road and mtb versions. > > The LX worked very well, but I simply found the reverse lever action > annoying. > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 1:46 PM Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Do you run a Rapid Rise derailer? Do you like it? Have you had one before >> and just didn't get it? What's the *deal?* >> >> With all the commotion over Rivendell's plan to build their own >> production low-normal derailer I figured I'd try one out for myself. The >> first one I picked up was an XTR RD-M951 which I suspected had a bent >> pulley cage, some of you may remember I posted about this mech a few weeks >> ago. >> >> I found this Nexave on eBay for $17 so figured I'd give it a shot. This >> model, to my mind, is *the* classic rapid rise derailer. Silver, shiny, >> long cage, external guide pulley, pivoting cable guide for a short bit of >> housing over the rear dropout. Grant mentioned that this was his favorite >> model, cosmetically. I like it, too. >> >> So far I haven't put many miles on it but no complaints. I like getting >> into the easier gears with a light touch. I'm running the derailer on my >> Appaloosa with a Silver 38/24 crank and a 9-speed 11-36 cassette. It's >> wired up to the original Suntour Power Thumb shifters which are mounted in >> the reversed, under-hand style also known as the Riv-versed or Rivendell >> brifter style. >> >> With the reverse-mounted shifters I did like pushing the lever away from >> me to get an easier gear with a high-normal derailer installed. That made >> sense. Pulling the lever to me for an easier gear is taking a bit of >> getting used to but the action required is so light that it's not a problem >> so far. >> >> Unfortunately, I haven't yet been in a situation where I'm climbing and >> experience a mis-shift under torque resulting in the derailer bumping me to >> an easier gear. I'm looking forward to it, really. >> >> One thing I can't get my head wrapped around is why Grant and Rivendell >> want to make this happen and go through so much trouble and expense. It is >> quite a complicated undertaking. It seems if you're into low-normal >> derailers they're out there if you look hard enough and have some patience. >> Perhaps it's just what they do and what they're about. They want something >> to exist that has gone out of production, they make it so, and that is the >> purest expression of their ethos and what they love about bikes and >> components. "Isn't this great? People should be able to find and use >> these!" >> >> [image: IMG_1983.JPG] >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/892c029a-4efd-4b00-9dc7-840361116a39n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/892c029a-4efd-4b00-9dc7-840361116a39n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/195f5a5b-bc59-427f-b6cf-d5501003889fn%40googlegroups.com.
