Maybe somebody is ready to sell an older Homer and just needs a nudge. 

On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 7:25:19 PM UTC-7 Dave Grossman wrote:

> I have an older Homer (not sure if it is Waterford or Toyo but I'd like to 
> know actually) and having owned a Roadini I can say I find it a much 
> superior all around bike.  I hadn't considered a Sam since I have a Hunq 
> but I can do light touring and backpacking with my Homer if I desire.  I 
> rotate it in my commuter stable with the Hunq and I end up riding it quite 
> often.  I currently have it set up with Crust Towel bars (with a large Fabs 
> in the middle!), VO fenders, and 44s.  I have it maxed out, but it is such 
> a great ride.  I've thought about getting a stripped road bike but the 
> Homer is so versatile.  I think if I didn't have the Hunq, I'd be more 
> inclined to get a Sam.  But if you already have a hauler an older Homer is 
> the way to go.  I have a 63, which I am on the small side for with a 90 
> pbh, but it fits great and I love the ride.  My Hunq is a 58 and while I 
> can clear a 62 (I've ridden the 62 before) I love having the clearance that 
> a slightly smaller frame allows for the rough stuff.  
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 4:27:16 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:
>
>> Just to be more confusing, I have a circa 2012 Homer, and I believe the 
>> even sizes are 650b and the odd sizes are 700c, so there was some overlap 
>> within some of the sizes.  I have a 54 cm AHH 650b, and I believe the 55 cm 
>> and 57 cm were 700c, while the 56 cm was 650b.  
>>
>> My Homer maxed out at 38 mm tires + fenders--I've used Parimoto, Lierre, 
>> GravelKing, and Soma Xpress, and all are good for me (depending upon the 
>> application, eg. commute vs fast ride).  My favorite tire size for 650b is 
>> 42 mm, and I believe the Sam H can ride those with fenders, so I might lean 
>> that direction if I had to choose.  
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>
>>
>>

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