I don't get it. How could an FD slip "up" the frame? Usually it slips down,
no?

On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 1:58 PM Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Piaw, joke's on me. Matthew says the chain was stretched AND the
> derailleur was in a bad position! 🤣
>
> Joe "hey, don't ask me" Bernard
>
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:51:25 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Chains falling of a chainring is OK. You just stop and put it back on.
>> I've done that many times and it's no big deal. I wouldn't even bother
>> talking about it. A chain getting jammed inside the FD? That is occasion
>> for much cursing.  A chain getting caught in the FD and then jamming in
>> between the chainstay and the wheel or crank? That could be a bike ending
>> problem.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 1:46 PM Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I shall have a cow over the relevancy of the derailleur, it did not
>>> cause the problem, it was the place where the problem ended. The implement
>>> does not exist on my Riv, hence the chain suck would have ended at the
>>> chain eventually dropping out of the suck or - worst case - falling off my
>>> single chainring. Short of saying Matthew shouldn't have triple rings and a
>>> front derailleur - which would be insane, I'm not saying that - I can't see
>>> how the fd was a problem. The chain, it sucked.
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:15:32 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>> It appears the whole thing was just a "perfect storm" of stuff hitting
>>>> the fan. The chain appears to be wedged in between the FD and the ring, so
>>>> yes..... it is surely relevant beyond existing on the frame. The saddle,
>>>> that's merely existing on the frame and having no part in this.
>>>>
>>>> My best guess is as good/worthless as any other guess ! I've had some
>>>> weird chain stuff happen on my Bombadil also, but never jammed up against
>>>> the FD like that (9-speed cassette and chain w/7-8 speed crank). They don't
>>>> always get along. My chains are all clean and in perfect working order,
>>>> adjusted perfectly, yet still.... "every once in a while" in shifting ....
>>>> W T F  just happened ?
>>>>
>>>> I do agree though with the gap of the FD being too high, at least in
>>>> this particular case. Having a full FD cage "may" have prevented it from
>>>> getting wedged in like it did or to that extent. I said "may", so don't
>>>> anyone have a cow. .  .  .   moo . ;-)
>>>>
>>>> We're all just trying to help a guy out of a "jam'.
>>>>
>>>>>
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