And thank you Dave for tracking that down! It looks like a lot of fun for certain rides. I Think Keith is right about the steel blades.
On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 1:52:54 PM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote: > [image: 10502AD6-F020-4485-8CA5-11800239A776.jpeg] > > This is what my rear clearance looks like 29x2.5 Ehline. I know I know, > take the boot off. Haha. > > On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 12:51:04 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote: > >> Actually, it looks to me like steel blades in an aluminum crown - not >> unlike the bontrager composite forks that were popular upgrades in the >> early 90s. I kind of dig it. To each his own but I also really like the >> dropouts. Reminds me of sturdy bmx forks - as well as early klunker >> upgrade forks - not wallmart. Clearly I'm swooned by historical references >> though. >> >> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 1:03:39 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote: >> >>> Looks like a torture device. The only thing that rides worse than >>> straight aluminum forks, would be straight aluminum disc forks. I know: >>> [image: IMG_0387 (2)s.JPG] >>> >>> Laing >>> >>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 2:37:11 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote: >>> >>>> Here's a recent teaser photo of the Crust AL bike: >>>> >>>> [image: crustbikes-al.jpg] >>>> >>>> -Dave (looking at too many bikes while finalizing parts for a Platy >>>> build) >>>> >>>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 11:34:04 AM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Unfortunately there are no details yet, just teasers. Supposed to be >>>>> something like the purple M2 specialized he’s been riding but with 27.5 >>>>> up >>>>> to 2.6” tire and some tweaks he thinks will make it better. My favorite >>>>> rides are mountain goating around and having to carry through sections. >>>>> Exploration rides. So the light bike seems like it would be fun for that. >>>>> But there are only 50 frames made for the first run. Made by a guy in >>>>> Vermont I think. They will likely sell in seconds. No idea on a price for >>>>> the frame/fork yet so who knows. Similar ugly as sin front dropouts as >>>>> the >>>>> Wombat is the only downside I could see from the teaser. Looks like >>>>> something on a bike from Walmart. There is a picture on the ronsbikes >>>>> instagram. >>>>> >>>>> I looked but couldn’t find the full picture I had seen somewhere, >>>>> sorry! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 8:04:21 AM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I haven’t heard of the Ronnie aluminum ATB. Any details you can post? >>>>>> A link? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 6:26:46 PM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The only conclusion I can come up with is N+1. I thought, maybe I’ll >>>>>>> just sell my Susie, I absolutely love my Clem H. Had to take the Clem >>>>>>> apart >>>>>>> for service, it’s getting a new fork and a full powder coat job. Tried >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> throw the 2.5 Ehline from my Susie in just to see. Honestly a bit tight >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> my comfort. The Susie has tons of tire clearance for mud side to side, >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> couldn’t get much more height because I’m within 3mm of the brake >>>>>>> (rubber >>>>>>> boot, without I guess a 2.8 would fit with similar room) in the rear. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My Susie rides more lively and (likely the tire size) smooth. Unless >>>>>>> I decide to have a custom frame made or go with something from >>>>>>> Tanglefoot >>>>>>> (71 degree seat tube angle!), I can’t see selling the Susie. I just >>>>>>> kinda >>>>>>> wish it was 27.5” in my size. I like the smaller wheel for the >>>>>>> exploration >>>>>>> riding I do. The Susie has more clearance and the tubes flex a lot to >>>>>>> give >>>>>>> a nice ride. The Clem is stout and ready for anything. They are both >>>>>>> such >>>>>>> great bikes, if they fit your bike needs. But, catch me on the right >>>>>>> day >>>>>>> and a large gold Susie might be for sale! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anybody else excited to see the new Ronnie Romance aluminum (gasp!) >>>>>>> ATB bike? 27.5x2.6 capable rim brake adventure bike. Nice. >>>>>>> On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 4:33:36 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The only conclusion (?) I can get from this tire discussion on >>>>>>>> Susie / Gus & possibly Clems is - get a duplicate set of wheels. One >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> pavement / gravel, and a dedicated set for MTB with proper knobbies. >>>>>>>> Anything less seems a compromise? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2022, at 12:14 PM, Brian Turner <brok...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’m running the Ehline 27.5 x 2.5 on my Gus currently. I had them >>>>>>>> on a previous bike that was a dedicated trail bike, and I liked them >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> that purpose a lot, so I knew what to expect. So far, I’m riding my >>>>>>>> Gus >>>>>>>> 50/50 dirt/pavement and I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised at how >>>>>>>> well >>>>>>>> they roll on paved surfaces. Pretty quiet, too. I doubt I’m going to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> doing any long paved rides, but for knocking around town and shorter >>>>>>>> paved >>>>>>>> trips 30 mi or less, they are quite enjoyable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All this said, if Jan H. decided to make a tire slightly bigger >>>>>>>> than the Umtanum or Fleecer Ridge in the 2.5” / 2.6” range, I would >>>>>>>> buy >>>>>>>> them in an instant. Those RH knobbies perform equally well and roll >>>>>>>> fast >>>>>>>> and quiet on all surfaces in my opinion and experience. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Ryan Frahm <fra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’ll chime in on the Teravail Ehline vs the Ranger. Granted, I ran >>>>>>>> a 3” Ranger tough vs the Light 2.5 Ehline, but the Ranger was >>>>>>>> extremely >>>>>>>> slow in comparison. I haven’t tried the Vittoria, but I’ve heard they >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> great tires. That being said, when I need new tires they will likely >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge endurance casing. They are fantastic all >>>>>>>> around >>>>>>>> tires, worth the extra $ in my experience. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 9:26:16 PM UTC-7 >>>>>>>> mkernan...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If we’re talking tires, take a look at the Kenda Booster Pro. >>>>>>>>> It comes in 29x 2.6 and 27.5x2.8 and both in 120 TPI with standard >>>>>>>>> casing >>>>>>>>> and a more puncture resistant casing, both tubeless ready. I have >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> 29x2.2 version and they are a surprisingly fast and not buzzy on >>>>>>>>> pavement >>>>>>>>> and very very grippy tire on gravel and single track. I have them in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> standard casing and they feel really solid and don’t squirm with >>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>> lower pressure. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A quick look at the tech specs and the claimed weights are very >>>>>>>>> light for a 29x2.6 tire( 681 +/-34 g for the standard casing and 763 >>>>>>>>> +/- >>>>>>>>> 38g for the more puncture resistant casing. Again, I only have the >>>>>>>>> 29x2.2 tires so can’t speak of real world experience of the 29x 2.6 >>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>> 27.5x2.8 but if the characteristics carry over, it is a wonderfully >>>>>>>>> fast >>>>>>>>> and grippy tire >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2022, at 7:50 PM, Luke Hendrickson < >>>>>>>>> phendr...@paulpath.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I appreciate it. ❤️ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 7:45:47 PM UTC-7 >>>>>>>>> jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Luke, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm so sorry for your loss. What a nice story behind your >>>>>>>>>> Atlantis. The build is great but the story behind it makes it extra >>>>>>>>>> special. Thanks for sharing it with us! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 7:16 PM Luke Hendrickson < >>>>>>>>>> phendr...@paulpath.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate the input on the sorta terrain you’re on with them. >>>>>>>>>>> Since my Riv >>>>>>>>>>> <https://theradavist.com/rivendell-atlantis-review/> is my >>>>>>>>>>> do-it-all, I spend time on fire roads, single track, paved, and >>>>>>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>>>>> in between. The Maxxis tires currently on the bike are tough >>>>>>>>>>> wearing and >>>>>>>>>>> durable. Supple is sorta down the list in desired qualities >>>>>>>>>>> (although some >>>>>>>>>>> Ultradynamico tires may be in my near future). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again, Paul. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> —Luke >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 6:02:36 PM UTC-7 Paul Clifton >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The 2.8" G-Ones are OK. Not great. Definitely not bad. The 2.8s >>>>>>>>>>>> only come in the DD Raceguard compound, which I don't think is the >>>>>>>>>>>> supplest. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> They're just really fat and a little hard to push on pavement. >>>>>>>>>>>> But they are a lot of fun on the single track, and until I get >>>>>>>>>>>> them into >>>>>>>>>>>> some real mud, I think they're all I need. Basically, they ride >>>>>>>>>>>> like a >>>>>>>>>>>> really good touring tire, I think. Plenty comfortable, plenty >>>>>>>>>>>> capable, >>>>>>>>>>>> plenty durable, but not especially supple or fast. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, the air pressure can really impact how supple they >>>>>>>>>>>> feel, and to a degree, change how boggy they feel. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'd really like a 2.5" or 2.6" tire with a similar tread and a >>>>>>>>>>>> suppler casing. The Scwalbe Big Ones were a chubby 60mm and they >>>>>>>>>>>> were my >>>>>>>>>>>> favorite for a long time. They weren't quite enough on single >>>>>>>>>>>> track, and >>>>>>>>>>>> the skinnier G Ones - 57mm - probably won't be either. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I really think these fat G-Ones do so well on the single track >>>>>>>>>>>> because of their chub, not the tread. And I'm going to keep them >>>>>>>>>>>> on at >>>>>>>>>>>> least long enough for me to ride them in the deep sand at the >>>>>>>>>>>> beach this >>>>>>>>>>>> winter. I have a feeling they'll do even better than the Big Ones >>>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If the WTB Ranger was available in 27.5 right now, I'd give >>>>>>>>>>>> that a try. I hear good things about the Teravail Ehline in 27.5 x >>>>>>>>>>>> 2.5, but >>>>>>>>>>>> it has a more aggressive tread than I want for riding on pavement. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So for an all around bike that sees 50% single track and 50% >>>>>>>>>>>> pavement, I think these are about as good as it gets. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 10:14:06 AM UTC-5 Luke >>>>>>>>>>>> Hendrickson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul – great info and analysis. How’re you liking the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Schwalbes? I’m tempted by them. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:42:12 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes good discussion! Paul, it's neat and surprising to hear >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from another Knolly rider here of all places - I rode a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chilcotin (the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> older 26" version) for a bunch of years! Sold it about a year >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> replaced it with an Esker Japhy steel hardtail as a bike that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was more my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> style, but still capable of riding black / double black trails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely love the way a hardtail climbs, and rides in general >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I do find >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get fatigued quicker on it vs. the full suspension bike, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's all good things - I can still ride everything I ought to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> riding, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I'm tasked with a little more care in my line choices and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when to elect >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to walk, which is healthy. I'm fully committed to the plan of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> picking up a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stooge mk6 when they come out next year to replace the Japhy, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and put >>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself back in the realm of fully rigid steel bikes across the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> board. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 20 October 2022 at 15:24:26 UTC-7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder about this exactly. If something works for someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am the last to question it. But, in my time off road with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clem the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long stem and backsweep of the Bosco are GOLD! This position >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the way it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes the bike feel / handle are pretty much my only reason for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considering >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Susie. I know it goes against everything that says “mountain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike” but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am looking to get away from straight bars. Just today I swapped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out a 12 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degree backsweep bar for a 35 degree one. Feels better but does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not feel as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good as the Clem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 6:01 PM, Mike Packard <mrg...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm also enjoying this thread. One thing I've wondered about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WRT Susie-Gus vs. Clem: Is the reach / effective top tube >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shorter on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Susie/Gus than Clem of similar size? I have a 59 Clem L that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even with a very short stem flat-ish bars are too far away. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:39:49 AM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings all. First, does anyone recall reading in one of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the updates about additional Susie / Gus bikes becoming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second, who is using their Susie / Gus as their primary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mountain bike? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Third, is anyone able to comments on a direct comparison >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between a Susie and a Clem L? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Clem never ceases to amaze me. It is, without doubt the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most comfortable bike I have ever owned. I am so ingrained to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my position >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the bike that I am now uncomfortable on my dedicated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> singletrack bike - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a full suspension bike with relatively strait handlebars. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clem is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really good off road and on mild singletrack, but its weight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flexibility have kept me from giving it a go on some of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rowdy, rock and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> root strewn tracks I like to ride on the full squish bike. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I have no illusions about any rigid bike being as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plush and capable on these trails as the suspended bike. 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