Hi Ryan:

I share your inclinations on RBW designs. My 1st Riv was a Rambouillet in 2006. The Ram was conceived of as a successor to the Long Low and mine continues to be a great riding bike.  I next got a Saluki but decided it really wasn’t for me and re-sold it. My 3rd Riv was a Road prototype and I still have that one also. It is a regular Waterford Road front geometry with a level TT and standard HT mated to a slack angle / longer chainstay GP style rear layout and it rides great. Has the neat original Sachs designed lugs and Reynolds 753 frame set. It’s plenty light and fast but comfortable too.  

Bruce

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On Nov 13, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Ryan <[email protected]> wrote:

Definitely proto-Riv...somewhere around Ted Durant and Mr. Moore ...1993 X0-1 that I still have, 1997 A/R and 2001 LongLow influenced Curt Goodrich Road...but veering into swoopy with 2016 custom mixte which I ordered with less ornate lugs than the Glorius and Wilbury models.

I get why Riv moved to TIG-welding for Clems and Roadinis ...but my heart is firmly attached to lugs, although...if I was more of a utility cyclist , I'd definitely consider one of the Clems. But, shopping is within walking distance so a Clem is not really required. I do applaud Grant's move to keep the durability and good design hallmarks of Rivendell while making them  more affordable, however. 

 Before I retired my 73/74 single-speed Peugeot PX-10 or my X0-1 were my daily commuters...so to speak to the visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/40dd5cf0-9772-41c7-9a3e-89925a958892n%40googlegroups.com.

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