RE those comparing Romanceurs and Rivs 

I loved my (XL disc) Romanceur - but have a bad shoulder / neck. I couldn't 
run drops. It didn't handle that well with upright bars IMO. The short 
wheelbase makes it hop  and wheelie a lot climbing. I love climbing. It 
rode amazing with a shortish stem and towel racks, but was a real neck 
destroyer. Looked great though. Hauled front basket cargo like nobody's 
business. I loved it - but not for me. 

I traded it for a Clementine 59 and (also bought a) Clem Smith JR 64. OG 
clementine feels a tad like the Romanceur a bit with a bit more room in the 
front for swept backs and appropriate chain stays to keep it on the ground. 
Climbs wonderfully. Clem JR just cruises like nobody's business. One of the 
most fun and cruisey bikes ive ever ridden. The more slack head tube makes 
it a bit floppier than the Clementine with a high front load (ie basket or 
porteur bag) Im likely going to keep the Clementine and part with the JR 
only because of slight overlap and lack of space. 

Now that I took the RIV plunge, having a high maintenance body that gets 
pissed off easily, I can't imagine not owning a rivendell for my main ride 
anymore. I dont think you can make a wrong decision. I think it comes down 
to more or less tire size, aesthetics, and availability. Each has their 
slight niche variations, but overall no matter what be amazing. 

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:47:06 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Triples are my fave. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> It’s the Mermaid color. They only had one in stock so the decision was 
>> pretty easy. 
>>
>> Right now I’ll be going 3x9. I bought a NOS Ritchey triple recently to 
>> put on my Long Haul Trucker but it’ll be going on the Gus. I could see 
>> going 2x9 or 2x10 at some point. White Industries makes some really nice 
>> stuff. 
>>
>> It’s funny because I just bought some Paul Motolite brakes for the 
>> Trucker and now they’ll be pulled for the Gus. Back to the mismatched 
>> v-brakes. 
>>
>> I still need wheels but I found a cheap set on eBay. They’ll do for now. 
>>
>> The shipping notification just came through. Hopefully I’ll have it early 
>> next week. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Luke Hendrickson <phendr...@paulpath.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Awesome!!! Which color is your Gus, Jacob? Very much looking forward to 
>> seeing it built up. What sorta gearing you have in mind?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:41:13 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for all the replies. I ended up going with a Gus. C&L Cycles out 
>>> of Montreal had a frame in stock. I've been eyeing parts for the build all 
>>> day. My parts stash is pretty full so hopefully things will come together 
>>> quickly on the build. Thanks again for the help! 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 11:30:00 AM UTC-5 Mark Schneider wrote:
>>>
>>>> Country roads, sounds like the Platypus would be perfect. The Gus/Susie 
>>>> really is nice for washboard, and rough off-road rides, but rides great on 
>>>> the roads too. I have a large Susie, and I'm running Rene Herse tires, and 
>>>> I'm impressed with the responsiveness. It's very plush! Kind of wish I'd 
>>>> gotten the Gus, just because I've packed on some weight and there's a 
>>>> small 
>>>> drop-off I occasionally find myself going over. 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 7:44:14 AM UTC-8 saxt...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks I’ll stop hijacking this thread and ask for more advice on a 
>>>>> separate one.
>>>>> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 8:38:48 AM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m running Albatross currently  it works well but I am looking for 
>>>>>> something with a little less rise and sweep. I may have to just bend my 
>>>>>> Albatross out a little and call it good. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The bike itself is awesome. Coming from a Clem, which was too heavy 
>>>>>> duty for me, this bike feels more springy and lively. Rides fast on the 
>>>>>> road and tackles dirt roads and singletrack with ease. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One knock I have is the fork feels a little stiff. I guess for 
>>>>>> heavier front loads. But I wish it were a little more compliant. Other 
>>>>>> than 
>>>>>> that, it’s a great bike. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 3:19:22 PM UTC-7 saxt...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What bars are you running on the Romanceur?  I was about to start a 
>>>>>>> similar thread looking for advice and one of my shortlist choices was 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> Romanceur..so curious about your set up. 
>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:32:37 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates 
>>>>>>>> them the same, as far as durability. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There’s been some good suggestions already. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged frame. 
>>>>>>>> 853 steel. 650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for the ride 
>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>> you describe. Mine rides light and springy (mine is the canti 
>>>>>>>> version). 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7 
>>>>>>>> jacob...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly 
>>>>>>>>> a Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but 
>>>>>>>>> something or 
>>>>>>>>> other always came up. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on 
>>>>>>>>> paved country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the 
>>>>>>>>> unpaved 
>>>>>>>>> stuff is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride 
>>>>>>>>> but any 
>>>>>>>>> bike with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 
>>>>>>>>> mile 
>>>>>>>>> ride. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in 
>>>>>>>>> town rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo 
>>>>>>>>> riding usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I 
>>>>>>>>> know the Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit 
>>>>>>>>> better. 
>>>>>>>>> I'm not a fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke 
>>>>>>>>> in a 
>>>>>>>>> fall last year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is 
>>>>>>>>> wonderful). 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the 
>>>>>>>>> road as the Platypus?  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the help! 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>>>
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