I’m glad you brought these things up. I’ve had a thought on my mind for a bit that might be appropriate to discuss here. (If not I apologize and please delete this Jim. Also apologies if this has been discussed and I missed it or if it’s in the moderator guidelines and I forgot about it.)

My instinct tells me that only Rivendell bikes or frames should be sold here. If I saw a Specialized bike or frame (nothing against Specialized they’re just the first mega company that came to mind) for sale here, I’d find it inappropriate. I saw a non-Riv (and to my knowledge not at all Riv-related) bike posted for sale here recently and I thought it was inappropriate. But I think it’s fine posting B-stone here since this group is essentially a spin off of the original BOB group and because of you know…Grant.

But many here are into bikes from “friends” of Rivendell or Riv-related companies such as Crust or B-stone. Crust sells Rivendell bikes alongside their own. I don’t know of any other bike manufacturers who do that. Many of us put Crust handlebars or Ronnie Romance bags on our bikes. We like their stuff because they make stuff that is mostly in alignment with the stuff Rivendell makes which is why we love Rivendell. 

The reason I bring this up is because I have a Crust that’s no longer made and may be considered rare that I’ve been considering selling. My loyalty is to this group first and foremost and I’d rather someone here have first dibs on a bike they might want rather than posting it on the 650b group (where some here might see it), or Craigslist or last and definitely least, eBay. I’m a member of the 650b group but I never go on there and can’t remember if I’ve ever participated in any discussions there. 

Should we make a list of non-Riv bikes that we feel appropriate to post here, if any? If B-Stone counts, what is the criteria that will make other companies count? Should we start a thread of Riv-adjacent bikes for sale and keep all of it consolidated to a single thread much like the Craigslist part 1, 2 and 3 threads?

Thoughts? 

Joe in Los Angeles 

PS-I hinted about the said FS bike in another post here that brought up Crust bikes. I felt that was not inappropriate ;-)

On Nov 15, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Dave C <david.charles.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you for the feedback and admin work.

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 8:30:34 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
Hey there - 

Just slipping on my admin cap because I'm noticing a trend:

There has been an increase in "no-price" For Sale posts which have ended up in the queue. While I don't feel they are made in anything other than good faith, it potentially changes the nature of this group to an auction house. There are other websites which do that.

I've also noticed a number of Sale listing attempts (again, caught in the review queue as they are from newer members (or those who never posted before) for pretty general gear. That's much more of a grey area, as we all end up with extra bike stuff. But there have been a number of "swap meet" style posts that get pretty broad, or are even introduced with "I've cross-posted this into..." 

For the second condition, I'll admit more leeway for those who share images and ride reports and the things that make this a valuable place. 

For the first issue, moving forward if something is listed for sale without a clear asking price and lands in the queue, I'm going to not pass it through. And might ask non-moderated posters to specify a price if a listing is not clear. 

For reference - in this last batch of ~20 posts which landed in moderation, there were 6 which had no-price-gimmee-an-offer text. 

Thanks!

Jim / list admin


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